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BULLITT65

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #180 on: November 19, 2015, 05:56:45 PM »
I am jealous you guys are going to have a great time. I just made a road trip through there. Just missed the show by one week, what a bummer. Unfortunately I had no more wiggle room with my schedule. I was lucky enough to see my friends Unrestored 69Z, and purchase a clean 2010 Camaro SS (for my wife) on the trip so it was not a total loss.

I look forward to all the updates and pics!
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #181 on: December 21, 2015, 09:38:31 PM »
A few more things learned or happened to see at MCACN along with some info I was asked to show.
Engine lift bracket and intake bolt (Intake bolts are phosphate) have silver paint on.


Detailed pic showing underside of spoiler stripe paint.


Weld bead on wheel and paint dab on tire used to assist with ease of balancing or obtaining a good balance first time. Good reason we seldom see large amount of lead weights on survivor wheel/tire combo's.



And was asked to show the size of the date stamp on the sub-frame. Letters/numbers are approximately 1/2" in height.
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #182 on: December 21, 2015, 09:48:24 PM »
This was pointed out to me at MCACN that it shows late built Camaro's with spoiler at some point changed from the normal earlier rectangular square corner slot to a radius.
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #183 on: December 22, 2015, 12:05:17 AM »
that rear spoiler pic has me thinking. Can someone post a pic of the squared off hole? when did they make the switch?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #184 on: December 22, 2015, 01:52:56 AM »
that rear spoiler pic has me thinking. Can someone post a pic of the squared off hole? when did they make the switch?

Not sure when switch was made but must be late year as several spring 69 cars looked at have the rectangular type. See Danny's survivor for picture of rectangular type posted.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14070.0
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #185 on: December 22, 2015, 02:51:01 AM »
Interesting, might be another research topic to narrow down the date, and figure out why this may have happened. One thing I noticed on my unrestored car is a grease pen type date on the under side of the left wing, it says "6-24 D" . Not sure if you saw anything on the underside of this wing that would be similar. I will have to get at the right angle , and see if I can figure out which spoiler I have on my 08C car.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #186 on: December 22, 2015, 06:37:47 AM »
My 07A Z/28 spoiler with original paint has the radius slots like Chick's photo.
Austin, after your comment, I looked and sure enough there is a writing on the left wing of mine as well....It's hard to read but pretty sure its M528. So far, every original part on my car is dated May or June.
Chick, thank you for the continued photos!
Len H. KS
69 Z/28 07A X77D80 HO/Blk Vinyl Top, born w/drive train, full 3 owner hist
67 SS396 138 Conv/Red/Blk int.
66 SS396 138 4sp CA car/Smog/Blk/Red int. POP, born w/drive train, orig CA blk plates http://www.chevelles.com/forums/35-restoration-corner/528818-66-ss-finally-back-track-30.html

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #187 on: December 22, 2015, 08:24:04 AM »
Well maybe we should start a new thread on spoilers? thats 2 that have the markings!
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #188 on: December 22, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »
Lets do it. I nominate you to get it started  :)
Len H. KS
69 Z/28 07A X77D80 HO/Blk Vinyl Top, born w/drive train, full 3 owner hist
67 SS396 138 Conv/Red/Blk int.
66 SS396 138 4sp CA car/Smog/Blk/Red int. POP, born w/drive train, orig CA blk plates http://www.chevelles.com/forums/35-restoration-corner/528818-66-ss-finally-back-track-30.html

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #189 on: December 23, 2015, 01:07:52 AM »
Here's another shot of the frame marking on Skip's car. I took this at MCACN last month.
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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #190 on: December 23, 2015, 01:13:11 AM »
I thought this was interesting. On spoiler cars, I thought the holes for Camaro trunk emblems were drilled in both the lower and upper positions. There is no sign that the lower holes were ever drilled on this lid. Also, there are no acorn-style nuts along the back edge spoiler studs.
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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #191 on: December 23, 2015, 01:18:01 AM »
Notice that the inner part of the stripe on the cowl does not follow the contour of the sunken area. It extends back from that about 1/4" or so. Most Z's I've seen are masked this way on the cowl panel but if people don't have an original example to go by, they typically follow the contour line.
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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #192 on: December 23, 2015, 01:37:49 AM »
I think mid 69 they switched from acorn nut to the ones in your picture for the rear spoiler. My 08C car has the same kind as Skips car, while I am pretty sure JohnZ 02D car still has the acorn nuts. I would have to go back and look at the stripe layout, good observation.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #193 on: December 23, 2015, 02:21:12 AM »
From my database of trunk lids it appears around April - May the cars that had spoilers did not have both sets of holes..  I can not say for certain that the nuts are correct or original..  Excellent observation Mr. Mello!!

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Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #194 on: December 23, 2015, 02:50:50 AM »
I thought this was interesting. On spoiler cars, I thought the holes for Camaro trunk emblems were drilled in both the lower and upper positions. There is no sign that the lower holes were ever drilled on this lid. Also, there are no acorn-style nuts along the back edge spoiler studs.
Excellent Jon! Know Lloyd has some good pics he could share also! Help me but believe JohnZ or someone along the line stated the top holes were pierced (all the earlier lids) when the deck lid was made making only spoiler cars needing the drilling at the plant. 
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584