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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2016, 05:06:05 PM »
Now that you mentioned that scenario, I remember reading that post before.  Just took a little memory jogging.  Guess it didn't pass the trim test on the passenger side and had to be corrected and then run back through on the next shift.

Another observation....the green T stamp on the passenger side has an anomaly on it (looks like a piece of fiber attached to the bottom that curls up half way up the upright part of the T).  The green T under the trim tag also has the same anomaly.....So that seems to tell me that the trim tag stamp was probably done with the same stamp after the other PTB inspections were completed and passed.  Interesting.

Here is the passenger side T stamp...
     

Here is the trim tag T stamp...
     
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2016, 04:42:43 PM »


It appears there is Ermine white mist over the firewall, the inspection marks are over the white mist correct?
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2016, 05:19:27 PM »
All great discussion & info on the PBT stampings but shouldn't this be separated into another thread for better searching in the future?
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2016, 05:45:57 PM »
Isn't the cowl paint, and how it was painted related to the PBT stamps since some of the cowl paint 'misted' down over the upper reaches of the firewall (to wit, James' post)...??  which came first?  the chicken or the egg?  :)
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2016, 07:21:48 PM »


It appears there is Ermine white mist over the firewall, the inspection marks are over the white mist correct?

Hi James.....The car color is Ermine white and that is the basic color showing through the fogged on firewall blackout.  The firewall blackout is good up to the seam but above the seam the firewall paint seems to be rather sparse....as I said earlier it looks to be fogged on and has a rough texture.  That fog goes from the heater motor area all the way over to the windshield wiper area where the black is really faint and the white really shows up well.  After the windshield wiper hole the firewall paint is good and solid. The cowl blackout for the stripe is solid all the way across and ends at the firewall breakover in a smooth transition.  And yes, the stamp is on top of the foggy area.
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2016, 07:26:10 PM »
Isn't the cowl paint, and how it was painted related to the PBT stamps since some of the cowl paint 'misted' down over the upper reaches of the firewall (to wit, James' post)...??  which came first?  the chicken or the egg?  :)
As stated above.....seems that in my case the mist is from the firewall blackout below and the stripe blackout is rather solid to the breakover.  Don't know they got the stripe blackout transition to look that smooth.
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2016, 07:28:53 PM »
All great discussion & info on the PBT stampings but shouldn't this be separated into another thread for better searching in the future?
Was thinking the same thing...this has morphed into two different aspects of the same area.
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2016, 12:00:45 AM »
Paint on cowl is original 69 Z10
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2016, 11:02:36 PM »
Has it been established when and where the cowl was painted with the stripe color?
Was it done by Fisher, when the body was painted, or by Chevrolet when the front end was painted?

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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2016, 11:13:36 PM »
Fisher, Chevy only painted the front fenders hood, and upper and lower valances, basically the stuff forward of the firewall, Fisher painted everything else.
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2016, 11:21:16 PM »
OK, so regarding the "T" on the passenger side what are the dates of those cars with the curling thread by the T? We have to narrow down when the thread became dislodged (or attached) from the rest of the stamp.... ;D
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2016, 02:10:57 AM »
Fisher, Chevy only painted the front fenders hood, and upper and lower valances, basically the stuff forward of the firewall, Fisher painted everything else.

Thanks, Mark
Just from looking at the pictures in this thread, it's hard to tell if the cowl was painted before, or after the firewall blackout. I'm assuming Fischer did the blackout.

In the most recent resto of my 68Z (late 90's) the most accurate info for the cowl paint was that it was pretty much the entire cowl section that was painted stripe color. That's the way I did it, at the time. Others have said that it was masked off so that only the area under the cowl panel was painted.
I have a NOR car, and the pictures of the cars here pretty much confirm that I'm in the ballpark, as far as paint coverage.

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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2016, 11:47:58 AM »
Blackout was the last painting operation on Fishers side, done after all other body color, striping, etc was completed, and it included blacking out the rocker panels and tail panel if you had a car requiring those features.
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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2016, 08:12:52 PM »
Firewall black out was not performed ALL the time, I question whether it was performed 50% of the time.
More than 50% of the unrestored cars I have observed have had a fine mist of body color on the firewall OVER whatever black was there.

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Re: Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2016, 08:58:27 PM »
White stripe cars are pretty neat in that respect.  It's hard to see all that on a black stripe car.  I'm just getting around to cleaning up the firewall on mine and there is definite gloss black on the top of the cowl that quickly fades to a semi gloss on the forward facing firewall.  If there were any misting of the gloss black past the cowl to firewall transition it's almost impossible to tell.
  I do have a lot of frost green that shows through the firewall blackout however once you get to the tunnel transition around the bellhousing area.