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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #390 on: March 22, 2022, 04:02:16 AM »
Fantastic Mike! Thank you for sharing your craft.

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« Reply #391 on: March 24, 2022, 12:49:21 AM »
Thanks for the updates, Mike.  Looking good, as always.
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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #392 on: September 14, 2022, 11:00:00 PM »
Hello Mike, how is the porgress on the the projects going, I'm eager to see them advancing.

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« Reply #393 on: September 28, 2022, 05:54:28 PM »
Greetings and thanks for inquiring as to the status of what I do in-scale...

A bit hobbled as of late - perhaps dedicating too much time to a Mark Donohue/Penske Racing side project of long interest even as it's not strictly SCCA Trans-Am rooted?  Although likely to return to chassis work across both the '70 Chaparral Camaro (it still needing decals/graphics) and '70 T/G Racing Firebird Trans Am projects, seen (very) briefly would be a 3D-print shell of a '72 Matador NASCAR racer utilizing Jo-Han '72 Torino, AMT '74 Matador and much later AMT '92 Thunderbird NASCAR parts and subassemblies to approximate what's needed. 

Perhaps I viewed altogether too many (late period) episodes of ADAM-12 when it was in syndication as a kid, or longed for the COX .049-powered Matador perpetually out of reach at the local K-Mart so long ago, but something within myself needed and still needs a 'Flying Brick' to display next to my Trans-Am Javelins builds/efforts to date.  Thanks again and hoping to return to productive form as the weather turns and indoor activities beckon...



The topic in '72-season form, mainly because I expect someone or some firm to eventually afford us a fully finished '73 Riverside winner if only because to-date they've afforded us everything M. Donohue ever drove, rented, or glanced upon...



Seen here is a much-modified $29.95 eBay-sourced shell (actually two), with a dead example (yes - a third shell hinted at here) having been cut apart to yield separate bumpers, the grille, plus hood and deck lid as-witnessed.  The body shell measures out at approximately 1:26th scale, hence some complications are introduced on that basis besides.  Very slow work, and not for the timid. 

Other pathways would include the scarce Model Car World resin transkit of old, as well as better quality 3D-printed shell plus separate bumpers and grille sold by Robert Burns/Too Many Projects.  Decals will mostly be made up of Cherry Run '74 Penske Matador graphics, Dave Van Decals (perhaps), and whatever stray items might otherwise be wrangled and deployed just-so.



And finally, shared is a quick view underhood evens sans roll cage/stiffening structure characteristic of most any NASCAR/Winston Cup topic.  The engine constitutes a mash of Jo-Han and AMT parts, and more that a bit preliminary it is with regards to appearance. 

Mike K./Swede70


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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #394 on: September 29, 2022, 04:35:06 AM »
Cool car. Cant wait to see progress on it!

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« Reply #395 on: November 22, 2022, 04:11:35 AM »
Greetings...

Somewhat bummed given the anticipated 1:18th scale Replicarz-badged '70 Chaparral Camaro sealed resin release is now something that can be pondered in prototype form for new images afloat online even if the model is 'still on the water'. Why 'bummed'? Well - it doesn't look very good! Even if the markings will be rescaled and redone, the wheel/tire relationship is pretty poor, whereas the rest doesn't seem even as good as their '71/'72 AM Javelins from what I can make out. Anyhow, follow the link to witness the new 1:18th product images which formerly had relied upon the very nice TSM 1:43rd sealed diecast product afforded to us maybe two or three years ago.  Sigh...

https://www.replicarz.com/1970-Chaparral-Camaro-Road-America-Jim-Hall/productinfo/R18203/

Expect the graphics to be refined, the silver-painted bumpers, grille and headlamp bezels to emerge chromed when the model is finally available, although still a disappointment from my perspective.  I suppose review of the photos will serve to prompt recommitment to my old ERTL conversion, hence this is something!  Thanks...

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« Reply #396 on: November 22, 2022, 05:28:44 AM »
Mike,

I sympathize with your trepidation.

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« Reply #397 on: August 26, 2023, 06:47:21 PM »
Greetings...

The 1:18th Replicarz 1970 Chaparral Camaro in sealed resin has arrived, listing at a cool $239.95 then so definitely not for the faint of heart.  Regretting that the prototype photos of this release really were all but final; i.e. we wouldn't be afforded chromed bumpers, headlamp bezels, or larger tires for the rear in particular.  Both Jim Hall and Ed Leslie iterations exist - but no Vic Elford Watkins Glen spec. for now.  I'm thinking that my ERTL-based effort will just morph into a later-season V. Elford ride without further ado, revising and correcting what I may to ensure this is so...

Back to the Replicarz version, seen is my example with refinished wheels and brake discs, plus some other small revisions consistent with helping the model look it's best.  I did add the Firestone fender decals seen on the fenders, the jack positioning marks on the rocker panels, the small rectangular strips of white decal film atop each exterior door latch.  Other things performed would be a cowl vent black wash application, the removal of the roof 'Chaparral' legends, the addition of some head lamp fill panels with the SCCA Technical Inspection sticker, etc. 

Although I wanted to remove the interior to refinish it, I couldn't fathom risking too much here given the interior casting is very solidly glued in, the risk judged too great to shift things more than I attempted.  Some decals are in the mail with revised flank 'Chaparral' and 'Camaro' lettering as seen on the flanks.  I'm thinking what Replicarz afforded seems a touch thin of script, maybe a bit elongated for what was rendered, and perhaps radiused too prominently across each wheel arch opening for good measure.  Hoping to set things right in this regard, but basically looking O.K. at this point even with the rather meek tires fitted (same size front and rear - sigh).  Kind thanks...






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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #398 on: August 26, 2023, 07:20:43 PM »
Mike - I didn't know that the 1970 Chaparral Camaros used Firestone tires until I looked at your photos.  I have Dave Friedman's book, Trans-Am, and looked closely at the photos of the Jim Hall Camaros and saw the Firestone decals.  I remember when Parnelli Jones told me that in 1969, Goodyear had a better race tire for the Trans-Am series, but as Parnelli was a Firestone dealer, he had to run their tires.  Thanks for the posting. - Mark

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« Reply #399 on: August 27, 2023, 12:31:31 AM »
Thanks for your reply and interest...

The Chaparral team would have had some unique insight into the 1970-season 'tire war' given different drivers had different tire contracts; i.e. Jim Hall being a Firestone stalwart, whereas Ed Leslie was linked to Goodyear, his entry shod as such.  Not so sure about Joe Leonard in his one-off appearance for the team (this I'd have to check), whereas Vic Elford was also tied to Firestone - hence no variance there.  Thanks...

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« Reply #400 on: August 27, 2023, 01:11:55 AM »
Elford did win the 1970 Trans-Am race at Watkins Glen.  I always liked the design of the 1970 Camaro and my friend bought a new 1973 Z28, which had air conditioning and an automatic transmission, better suited to driving in Los Angeles than his 1968 Z28.

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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #401 on: August 30, 2023, 08:30:42 PM »
Greetings...

Hoping at some stage to complete my 1:18th ERTL conversion as the '70 Watkins Glen winner, pleased in a sense to discover that some 1:18th waterslide decals basically purchased 'off the shelf' had some utility after all which is discussed below:

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I had ordered some 'Teresawulf' 1:18th waterslide decals atop what I was already in possession of - namely the 1:25th Fred Cady 1970 Chaparral Camaro SCCA Trans-Am waterslide decal art of old.  Contrasting the Chaparral lettering between the two sheets, it's entirely possible the former was scanned from the latter.  All the same, a strong case can be made to switch out the flank 'Chaparral' and 'Camaro' lettering given the font is definitely not 100% accurate as can be discerned.







Worried then that I'd make a mess of the body shell for softening and hence ruining the paint, whereas further worried I'd be sharply disappointed with the quality of the decals.  Things generally worked though, with 30% acetone employed to remove (delicately) the as-delivered flank lettering short of staining the underlying finish, whereas the decal film employed by the 'Teresawulf' (eBay seller i.d. then) proved well-behaved for not curling or tearing.  Adhesion of the decals didn't prove a huge concern, with the images settling down well enough sans application of a softening agent which may well have dissolved the ink employed for the art.  Although I didn't set any standards for cutting the artwork creatively close for eliminating all trace of excess film, what compromise was struck proved good enough.   









Thanks for your review of this post...

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Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros.
« Reply #402 on: September 01, 2023, 02:18:42 PM »
Mike, great work and research on the Chaparral Camaro and your other T/A projects !

Here's a photo I have in my files of what is labelled as Joe Leonard in the Chaparral Camaro at Donnybrooke, the car is shod with

 Firestones, but interestingly there is no Firestone decal on the fender, which does appear, sometimes not,  in other images from

 other races.

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« Reply #403 on: September 01, 2023, 02:31:13 PM »
Here's another from my files, Leslie Camaro, Bridgehampton '70 with Goodyears.

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I can rarely get the size right  ::) so scroll l-r for full image.

 

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