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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »

Whoever had the fake documents made up is the first person responsible. They committed the fraud first. You would not have false documents made up for a clone. They would only be made for one purpose and that would be to deceive.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 02:28:57 PM »

I emailed HMS when they had it and out sounded like others had too. They had to have known. First thing I saw I  knew something was up. I am sure if anyone had seen it in person would have said the same thing I did. There is a black z on Ebay that had been on before and no saled at mecum indy. I ask the owner what was up with the tag and he said it was real and he knew the original owner. I think its a march d80. Very rare z!! Other thing I didn't like, his feedback showed buying a fake 57 Chevy tag

The gold car needs find a 327 and new fake tag
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2012, 03:29:53 PM »

Whoever had the fake documents made up is the first person responsible. They committed the fraud first. You would not have false documents made up for a clone. They would only be made for one purpose and that would be to deceive.
Rational people would think this way. If you remember the blue convertible Z that was built had ALL the paperwork. I honestly think he did it for his own  kicks, which is fine. Somewhere down the road fake anything becomes real when $$ is involved.
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2012, 08:02:16 AM »

The sad reality is someone looks for the next sucker to unload the car onto. It's clear this car has been around and in some high end collections so it managed to play the part well. Also appears when the owner did some digging around they got the bad apple out of the bunch, this will not be the last we hear from this one.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2012, 09:29:07 AM »

The car needs to have a new vin issued with a builders title. That is the only way to end things short of crushing it.
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2012, 10:11:18 AM »

I would still like to hear from the man himself, Mr. Hendrick. But until I do I have to assume he is just as much to blame as everyone else. This man has one of the most extensive classic car collections in the country and if anyone should know a fake it should be him, or at the very least his classic car curator or consultant. If I were him with unlimited resources this is what Iíd do;

a.   Suck it up and admit I was scammed.
b.   Fire my classic car curator/consultant.
c.   Put my high powered attorney to work, financially dismembering everyone involved from the a-hole that instigated this fraud to the person/persons I purchased it from.
d.   Post all the findings on my website including the names of all individuals responsible.
e.   Take this great looking Z28 Clone and raffle it off. Donate all of the proceeds to the charity of my choice and write it off.

So what if Iím short 60k. Thatís chump change for me. Heck, I pay more than that for pit tires in one race!

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2012, 10:34:47 AM »

So you raffle it off then someone wins it and it starts all over again. Car needs a new vin and title or it never stops.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2012, 10:47:07 AM »

Whatever it takes dude!
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2012, 11:50:59 AM »


Apparently it's no longer in stock.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2012, 12:47:31 PM »

I was by there last night and its still sitting in same place.
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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2012, 02:30:50 PM »

Be interesting to see if you walked in there if they would continue to try to pass it off as an original.
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 03:28:55 PM »

  I don't think they knew any different. They didn't sell stuff like this and had no idea with the fake documents. I saw it and the paper with looked old. I didn't like 2 things on the tag and the block had no broach marks. I looked at alot of cars this winter and starting to see weird stuff. I hope the right thing is done and no one else is screwed by this car. I bought a 396 rs ss 25 years ago that was a cloned car and didn't know. Guy lied to me and it makes you mad. Money was alot less then.
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 04:41:12 PM »

There are tons of people that think it's OK to restamp or "build" what you want with colors or options, that no one will ever know. Sooner or later the truth comes out or the story gets forgotten. IMO, too many clubs allow this too, won't go into names. To me an award is meaningless from those clubs. I'd rather see an original in driver condition then a perfect fake.
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

Doug Ė Those clubs just like the people who clone with intentions of deceiving should be exposed as well. I had no idea there were clubs out there that condone these acts. Kurt hit the nail on the head a while back when he commented no one is above reproach. Any and all individuals, regardless of their stature in the collector car world or otherwise should be exposed for what they are; that above the law mentality really stinks up the hobby!

Does anyone know who currently owns the car? And my second question; Can anyone tell what the donor car was?
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 06:12:04 PM »

Its still at Nelson. wonder if the hidden vin is gone? Would Jerry have looked for it?
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