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Author Topic: Fake 69 Olympic Gold Z is back on the market  (Read 5266 times)
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« on: June 14, 2012, 06:36:37 PM »

Looks like this Z got pawned off on another sucker.

http://www.nelsonautogroup.com/profile.asp?VIN=124379N5876270000&xMake=&FilterMake=0&zip=&distance=

Previous discussion:

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8909.0

It also just sold at Mecum Indianapolis auction for 55K.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 07:21:56 PM »

Danny – Your first link was blocked (spam). Serves the seller right IMO. Here it is on the Hendrick site; http://www.hendrickperformance.com/detail-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z_slash_28-used-6761345.html

You'd think someone would have contacted Mr. Hendrix on this issue by now. I seriously doubt he is the type of person who would knowingly try to dump a clone z28 on an unsuspecting buyer. One would assume if he knew the truth he would go after the person that dumped it off on him and fire the employee that is advertising the car on his website. Sure wish someone on here would contact him.


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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 07:40:10 PM »

IZRSSS.....What do you mean my first link was blocked? It works for me.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 07:54:05 PM »

This car was talked about on Team Camaro and was suppose to be in the hands of lawyers. How does it the end up at a Mecum auction and get sold again. If I hit the lottery I'll buy the damn thing then blow it all to hell so someone else doesn't get screwed.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159042&highlight=124379N587627
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 08:33:38 PM »

This is what I mean Icmc...

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 08:36:33 PM »

It's not blocked for me. You must have spyware (FunWebProducts) on your computer Marty. You might want to download and run MALWAREBYTES ANTI-MALWARE. (I use the freeware version and that's just fine for me.)

Ed

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 09:00:15 PM »

My bad.  Smiley

Thanks for the tip Ed. I'll give it a try.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 12:41:57 PM »

I was in touch with Greg Nelson and he said he just became aware of the history on the car Wednesday. He's not very happy and is trying to get Hendricks to take the car back. Hopefully he can work something out.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2012, 02:22:17 PM »

I was in touch with Greg Nelson and he said he just became aware of the history on the car Wednesday. He's not very happy and is trying to get Hendricks to take the car back. Hopefully he can work something out.

That's funny because I was in there yesterday and acted like I was interested in it. He had no problem showing me the car. I knew it was fake but just wanted to feel him out. Not one word about it being fake. Think on Monday
I'll go back in and point a few things out and see where he is then.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 03:59:12 PM »

Keep me updated on that Danny. I'd be interested to see what he says. Maybe he was just feeding me a line of BS. You would think a guy with a business like his would do a little research before buying a car like that. It's getting to the point you don't know who to trust any more.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 04:55:12 PM »

Looks like its no longer "in stock".

Being a fake, I'd love to have that thing to beat around on the street.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 09:28:26 PM »

I think the whole car is a clone.  I had done a report on it back in 2009.  Nice looking car but it's not real or worth $60K.

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2012, 07:46:38 AM »

Jerry – You’ve represented several clients over the years on similar cases. Can you shed some light as to who is liable? Would it only be the folks that actually cloned the vehicle, or would it also involve everyone who knowingly sold the vehicle under false pretence? My guess is all the above. Problem is how do you prove the later?

Bryan Shook...can you commit?
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 09:37:01 AM »

Here's a response back from HMS after my inquiry. KIM its automated. I'll let you know if and when I get a response from Mr. Potter.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 11:45:07 AM »

Dictionary definitions of Fraud:
1) deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.
2) deliberate deception, trickery, or cheating intended to gain an advantage

Although the legal definition may vary from state to state, basically fraud is 'knowingly deceiving someone for the purposes of gaining an advantage over them, or which 'injures' them in some fashion'.

Representing any items falsely (and knowingly) for sale/profit is fraud.   if the seller doesn't *know* the car is a fake, then he is just ignorant, and not necessarily fraudulent.

building a 'clone' for one's own purposes is not fraudulent (No one is being deceived? and No one is being 'injured')..  at least not until the builder attempts to sell it under false pretenses!
 
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