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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2013, 02:02:30 PM »
Precisely - thanks, DW -

If the creeping thing was a 12B or C, I wouldn't have to go through the guesswork of whether it's an X66 or an X22. Gotta be one or the other, but with no original paperwork, how can I tell ?

I'd assume there would be an X6 or an X2 hand written on the bulkhead behind the rear seat. My 12B has an X1.

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2013, 02:21:26 PM »
So on the car that Jerry inspected they added the headlight trim, tail light trim and wheel well moulding, and then Jerry didn't call any of that out?

It's common for owners to display a Camaro Hi- Performance certificate. The inspection always includes a listing of non-original parts and incorrect features if it is a restoration. I'm sure it was noted.
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2013, 04:00:29 AM »
sorry I din't mean to hijack this thread, just trying to learn.
Well unless they added it after the inspection, it was not noted int he report.
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2014, 05:13:35 PM »
Don't forget the other option - SS five spoke wheels, 14 X 7 AO code K-H's, available up until late '68 if I remember correctly, I've always called them SS-1's. Some people like 'em, some don't, but I'm happy to have all 5 of mine on the L78 X66 12A barn car.

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Were yours (original wheels) in original paint?
and if so what color is the reverse? Black or Grey?
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2014, 01:15:01 AM »
JohnZ,
Did Motor Wheel supply finished painted wheels (low volume)?
OR
Did the assembly plants mask and spray 2 colors on the wheels?
Perhaps this could provide an answer to the grey back question regarding 69 Trans AM Rally II's (grey backs on survivors assembled at Norwood) as well.

 

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2014, 02:30:55 PM »
JohnZ,
Did Motor Wheel supply finished painted wheels (low volume)?
OR
Did the assembly plants mask and spray 2 colors on the wheels?
Perhaps this could provide an answer to the grey back question regarding 69 Trans AM Rally II's (grey backs on survivors assembled at Norwood) as well.

 



I can't speak to the Pontiac Rally II wheels - I don't recall how those were handled - I was at Norwood before Firebird production was transferred there. The standard Pontiac wheels were black primer on the back side, based on Lordstown photos.
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2014, 11:35:35 PM »
Don't forget the other option - SS five spoke wheels, 14 X 7 AO code K-H's, available up until late '68 if I remember correctly, I've always called them SS-1's. Some people like 'em, some don't, but I'm happy to have all 5 of mine on the L78 X66 12A barn car.

Regards,
Steve

Were yours (original wheels) in original paint?
and if so what color is the reverse? Black or Grey?


James,

I answered the PM before I saw this - please see attached pic. Definitely gray (or grey) -


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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2014, 11:38:05 PM »
Dig the giant wheel weight - indicative of what I took off of it (Goodyear WT GT, RWL's). Tires were original Goodboots, not Brazilian copies.

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2014, 03:02:16 AM »
Thought factory wheels were painted black on the back, service wheels were grey?
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2014, 03:25:22 AM »
My factory YH and YJ rallys are black on the inside and backside (unrestored, original paints), the factory YA's (original paint) and the set of AO's I restored (also original paint) for my '70 SS Chevelle were grey on the backside, black on the inside, with a little black overspray around the backside of the rim (you can see this in the pic, slightly). The grey is more reminiscent of "jack" grey or putty than "shock" grey, come to think of it.

My N66's were produced in '68 - I doubt they are service wheels. The AO's I had were original to that car, also (perfectly dated to the car to boot). If there is another circumstance for these, I'm not privy to it. My sample size is pretty small to draw a complete survey -

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM »
I looked at a friends 30K Feb 69 car yesterday and took a picture of his rally spare for you guys. Very original unmolested car. Note the straps on the jack mast also. George

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2014, 12:51:47 PM »
A February N66 equipped car kinda stretches the aforementioned January 8th deadline (if it was January the 8th) out there, doesn't it ? Car could have been ordered before the cancellation, obviously.

Nice trunk and appointments - the VE3 hook is a lot brighter than mine. The color always reminds me of Ford Blue.

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1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2014, 07:24:43 PM »
A February N66 equipped car kinda stretches the aforementioned January 8th deadline (if it was January the 8th) out there, doesn't it ? Car could have been ordered before the cancellation, obviously.
As not to confuse anyone the picture of the wheel I posted is not an N66 (SS Wheel) car.

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2014, 02:50:33 PM »
Thanks for the correction - a classic case of me commenting without realizing the subtle change in the thread direction. I looked at the color, not the configuration, and was still thinking N66 -

I'll be more careful -

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Re: 1969 spare wheel
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2014, 06:57:54 PM »
Thought factory wheels were painted black on the back, service wheels were grey?

CBTN Figure 17-9.
The way I read the painting notes:

PLAIN K-H Part No E-82277 Cust PN _____
Coat with Rustproofing Oil: K-H Part No E-82278 Cust Part No. 3958480
Gray Primer K-H Spec B-3352: K-H Part No E-82279   Cust Part No. 3966934
Same as E-82279 except tape  identify for Chevrolet Service: K-H Part No E-82280

This relates to the 69 AD rally.

I assume you guys are hashing out the SS AO/YA wheels at this point. Does anyone have a copy of the CBTN for 70-75 & does it contain the K-H drawing with notes on it that might clarify.

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