Author Topic: Hello. I have a November 1969 Production Date Canadian Car info requested  (Read 21193 times)

Kelley W King

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Subtract CPO,s ZL1,sZ11,s and Z10,s from total per previous post. Kind of rare considering that they are everywhere.
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Yes somewhat rare.  But like spoilers, tens of thousands were added over the years.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Yup, like my car. Thanks, I thought this was the way to figure the ZL2's. But sometimes an option is included in another option (like headlamp washers) so I wasn't quite certain.
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Tonight I am going to check for the front stabilizer bar.  She has the COPO 9737 (Sports Car Conversion Package) options. 

I've never researched a classic car like this before.  Nothing before a 1990 Ford.  I find it fascinating.

I understand some options were within others. But a pattern I am seeing, is the 427 cars were more racers, not cruisers.  Same w Z28. So yes you got a little more horsepower at times but the SSRS396 w comfort and the M22/375hp seems to be best of both worlds, yes?  Orange on orange is bold but I like it.  My buddy likes it.  He's the type of guy if a person walks into his shop and wants something stupid or non-standard or proper for a camaro.  He wont do it.  He will say go elsewhere.  He LOVES these cars.  I'm a Ford guy but fellas, I officially am now a 69 Camaro fan too.  Much thought and love and admiration went into these machines that, were the start of passion and innovation, in many future motorsport arenas.  Way more impressive than the Mustangs of the era.

He has computer data with all the tags, better pics, more stuff that came with the car when he bought it.

And I'm pretty sure there IS a M22 in HER.  But it's not a number's matching.  Everything else, and I mean everything, has matching tags..

What are the small things re restoration?  I mean he has an original battery unfilled, original tires, not on.  Stuff like that maybe.  Please specify so that I can inquire. 

Thanks!

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How do the ZL1's and COPO's figure in the the ZL2 total? Are they part of the 10,026 sold? If so then would you add together Z10's, Z11's, ZL1's and COPO's and then subtract from the 10,026 number to get the total ZL2's ordered for all other cars?

As I noted, only discrete options were counted. The ZL2 Ducted Hood was included with COPOs 9560 & 9561; it is never listed on factory documents for those cars. Not included in the 10,026 total.

COPO 9737 required 9560 or 9561. N711022 was not built with it.
 
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What’s the engine block casting number and casting date on the L78?

Mount Pearl - looks like a very nice area.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2018, 04:35:01 AM by bcmiller »
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Mike,
You keep using the word 'COPO'. Just to be clear, this is a regular production car with regular production features - not a COPO.
btw, the firewall was originally black, not body color.
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William, you never cease to enlighten me. The 4889 for L78,s is what I always believed. For automatics 10% or 489 is what I thought. What is your thought on L78 auto?

I thought this had been pretty well established (COPO totals included in L78 because the COPO program was based upon a modfied L78 SS package, with the exceptions list).

L78's delivered after mid April which were equipped with optional performance gear ratios 3.73 or 4.10 included HD cooling - the curved neck radiator (also referred to as the COPO radiator) this increased the charge of the optional gear ratio by 15.xx.  (HD cooling charge VO1)
This also resulted in a different ECL code for G80 on the Window Sticker.
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Thanks James.

So got more pics and a little more information.  The owner doesn't want me to post any tags so I will send the couple I was able to get, to Kurt?  What is the email please?  Thanks again fellas.  Story is coming along!!

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Very nice car, but then I'm a fan or 'Halloween cars'!  :)     Too late production for chambered exhaust... but I might put it on my late car too at some point...
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Kurt’s email is at the top of the forum page

KurtS2@gmail
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Are you tempted to go for the matching HO underside too Gary?  ::)
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Are you tempted to go for the matching HO underside too Gary?  ::)

:)   Nope, I'm gonna leave it the original multicolored scheme....  :)

.. although it's lots prettier all in orange...  :)
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Yeah the owner is a bodyman, and has been painting cars for years and years.  When he rebuilt her he painted it that way...how he wanted it.  Were the hugger orange cars called Halloween cars? And the exhaust.  I thought in mid 69 they introduced the NC8 chambered?  So what should be the proper stock SS exhaust on an 11A? 

Pics of what I have are sent to Kurt. 

Thanks again all!!

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Steve Shauger and I both have Orange/Black (exterior and interior) cars; ours are Z28s, and we refer to them as 'halloween cars'..

The chambered exhaust were std on all Z28's at the beginning of the model year (and optional on others?)  After a few months of some states giving owners hassles (who referred the states to GM), then the chambered were relegated to an *option*, that lasted a few months til around May/June '69, then the chambered exhaust were discontinued totally.  Simultaneously, GM went first to the transverse muffler by itself as std for Z28, but then when the chambered was totally discontinued (June?), they added a pair of resonators in front of the transverse muffler as 'std'...

Not sure what happened with the big block cars, but I suspect something similar after the chambered was discontinued in May/June...
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