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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2006, 08:55:42 PM »
Very interesting about the vinyl roof comments. Could the factory have used vinyl top stencils for my car?
Mistakes do happen.

I think that there is a thread that indicates that original factory paint had the cowl area painted the color
of the stripes. I remember reading that.


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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2006, 03:11:54 PM »
Very interesting about the vinyl roof comments. Could the factory have used vinyl top stencils for my car?
Mistakes do happen.

Nothing is impossible, but an uncorrected error of that magnitude is highly unlikely - it would have been spotted by just about everybody and corrected either in the Fisher Body Paint Shop or in Final Paint Repair after the car came off the line at Chevrolet.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2006, 01:30:13 AM »
Thanks John Z. I have included some additional pictures of the front stripes showing the window cowl
area painted white as indicated in another post as well as showing the stripes are not perfect. They
are feathered and not clean lines.

The second posting shows the rear stripes again. Showing that there is alot of overspary as well.
So, I'm not sure what happened here. Maybe you can see something I cannnot.

Another thought could the factory have used stencils that were made for a spoilered car, and would not
have to cover the area under the spoiler, then when my car rolled through with no rear spoiler, they may
have adjusted the stenciling downwards to cover the trunk area where a spoiler would normally have been.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2006, 01:31:03 AM »
Thanks John Z.

Second pictures.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2006, 01:49:08 AM »
I thought I read one of these threads where it said that the cowl vent panel was painted and striped off the car, so stripe color should not be in the cowl area? ???

The stripe color will be in the cowl area. The cowl area got the same color as the stripes. One of Jerry's books has a couple of good pictures showing how they were done.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2006, 12:14:32 AM »
Does the car have the original trunk weatherstripping in it?
If so it the ends will not meet in the center it will be off to the left a bit and there should be an orange mark on the weatherstripping... it should be located near the left hand side of the passenger side stripe.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2006, 03:00:10 AM »
I think it does have the original weatherstripping. It is pretty worn out. Should the seem be at the bottom or the
top. What is the relevance of original weatherstripping?

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2006, 03:07:32 AM »
Just from those pics, I'd tend to say it's been repainted. Never seen a stripe on the cowl taped at the bottom like that....

Is the wiper linkage white?
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2006, 03:53:46 AM »
Those stripe ends look very comparable to these originals:





It would make more sense if it was a stripe delete car, and they were added by the dealer, but the tag doesnt indicate that.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2006, 04:06:00 AM »
what on the tag would indicate a stripe delete. i thought that would be on the build sheet.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2006, 04:16:01 AM »
what on the tag would indicate a stripe delete. i thought that would be on the build sheet.

It would have "- -" for the paint code, rather than "72 72"
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2006, 05:59:32 AM »
Thanks Dave, I stand corrected. :)
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2006, 02:28:34 PM »
Those stripes look very much like the ones on the black car that I have as well... very shoddy tape job.
Stripe bleeds under the tape edge everywhere.

Here is a photo of the orange mark on the original trunk seal this is the pass side stripe...


Asking about the trunk weatherstripping just to see if it was original and if so does it have any overspray anywhere on it... close to where it goes in the channel? it is very hard to repaint the rear end and not get any overspray on the trunk seal unless the whole opening was taped off.

Here is another of the stripe ends... look at the overspray...
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2006, 03:14:15 PM »
Does the car have the original trunk weatherstripping in it?
If so it the ends will not meet in the center it will be off to the left a bit and there should be an orange mark on the weatherstripping... it should be located near the left hand side of the passenger side stripe.


Not necessarily - the Fisher O.D. Sheet for the trunk weatherstrip installation actually showed the joint to be located at the center, adjacent to the trunk latch, with adhesive in the butt joint and the excess wiped off with solvent. Photo below of my unmolested original 02D Norwood car.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2006, 03:43:02 PM »
John does your car have the orange mark on the weatherstripping?
I was told that the orange mark indicated the center of the weatherstripping... and that it was supposed to be offset to the right... guess that was not 100%.
Actually yours is the first I have seen that did not follow this pattern.


The pics I showed are of the unrestored 04C Norwood car... John does yours have weather stripping adhesive oozing out of the channel... I know that this one does in multiple places. 
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