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asm69

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Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« on: October 22, 2006, 10:09:34 PM »
I have a 1969 z/28 VIN #124379L505424, 10D Build date. I have the short rear
spoiler that appears to  have been installed by the dealer. The stripes continue
down the deck lid and I see that the camaro emblem has been removed and
the holes brazed in.

My question is why do the rear stripes start about 5 inches down from the rear glass?
Could the factory have used 1967 stripe stencils?

see pictures.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 03:55:36 AM »
that looks like a stripe kit for a convert. or a car with a vinyl roof. is is supposed to be orig paint? the 67/68 stripes were closer together. look at the data plate maybe someone took off a vinyl roof.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 03:55:59 AM »
Ditto
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 08:29:02 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean by data plate. I think you mean the trim tag at the cowl under the hood.
Here it is.

VIN #124379L505424

ST 69      12437      LOS131478   BDY
TR 711               72  72   PNT
    1OD            U471

I dont believe that vinyl top information is included in the trim tag. And I do agree with you in that it does
look like that it may fit a vehicle that had a vinyl top. Where else can I look to determine if the vehicle had
a vinyl top. (Roof drip moldings?)





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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 09:59:16 PM »
"Where else can I look to determine if the vehicle had a vinyl top.?"

You just did,  on the trim tag 72 72 PNT  means Hugger Orange upper and lower. If your car had a vinyl top it would have been 72 B or 72 A.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2006, 11:46:16 PM »
Wouldnt a car that early have the 68 stripe configuration (closer together)?
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 01:17:18 AM »
A thought regarding the rear stripes. I believe that the spoiler was dealer installed, due to the stripes being painted all the
way down the deck lid, as well as the camaro emblem holes being brazed in.

Is the distance from the bottom of the rear glass to the end of the trunk lid different between 1968 and 1969 camaros?
Could the stencil lengths be different for 1968 and 1969 camaros. Or could the stencil lengths be different if the factory
installed the spoiler or not?

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 12:31:00 PM »
Wouldnt a car that early have the 68 stripe configuration (closer together)?

Jerry's book shows a Sept 68 car with the short spoiler and the 68 stripes.  The short spoilers were used until Jan 69.  His book seems to indicate the 68 paint was limited to just the early cars-September 68.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 08:33:36 PM »
But, what about where my stripes start under the rear glass. I can so evidence of an accident and the
paint appears original. I have had the vehicle for about 20 years.


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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2006, 02:58:53 AM »
Jerry's book shows a Sept 68 car with the short spoiler and the 68 stripes. The short spoilers were used until Jan 69. His book seems to indicate the 68 paint was limited to just the early cars-September 68.

Thats sounds right. I wasnt sure of the cutoff date, my JerryM book is at the shop so I couldnt check.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2006, 05:42:21 AM »
Looks like a screwup when someone repainted the car....
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2006, 06:09:53 AM »
The fact that the paint continues over the edge of the trunk lid indicates that the car originally did not have the rear spoiler - (added by the dealer).  Also the emblem holes would be under the top of the dealer installed spoiler. (The emblem hole mounts were adjusted up the trunk lid for factory installed rear spoilers)  Could the car have had early rear body damage and the previous owner had it repaired.  At that time they may have installed the rear spoiler.  The body shop might have repainted the car this way...just my conspiracy theory.

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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2006, 09:01:45 PM »
I purchased the verhicle when it was 5 years old. It's had the same hugger orange paint. The trunk has the
original spatter paint. I've looked inside the back, inside the trunk, and under the car I see no evidence of repair
or repaint. Even the paint under the front window cowl is painted white like the stripes. It even has the original
glass all around.

Here's a thought could the striping be the result of the stencils being moved downard towards the trunk end to
make sure the end of the deck lid had stripes. I noticed that the rear spoiler is about 5 inches wide. Almost the
width of the space that is between the bottom of rear glass and the start of the stripes.

And your right the rear spoiler appears to have been dealer installed. Look at the pics again.


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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2006, 02:15:47 PM »
With out a doubt that is the vinyl roof stripe configuration... I just looked at the pics of Camaro Specialties Barn find original paint Z and the stripes look the same.
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Re: Early 1969 z/28 (short spoiler)
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2006, 03:55:10 PM »
I thought I read one of these threads where it said that the cowl vent panel was painted and striped off the car, so stripe color should not be in the cowl area?   ???