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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 05:18:18 AM »
Big infomercial, I guess a lot was learned about advertising with the closed down chevy dealership auction last year. Tell everyone and tell often!!
On a side note, I THINK I got a glimps of a green Z28, I wonder?
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2014, 08:02:03 PM »
Is that the one all the controversy is/was about?
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2014, 10:22:50 PM »


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"blah blah blah... has been certified by Jerry MacNeish"

Let's hope that's not  all some people will hear and assume it's all good.

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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2014, 04:24:20 AM »
Based on past information that surfaced, the two 'key statements' re the '69 Rallye Green Z28  (that Ron Pratte paid $125,000 for it IIRC...)

1. Documentation has been certified by Jerry MacNeish.     IIRC, the documentation IS an original set of documents from a '69 Z28..  :)

2. Car was restored with all GM sheet metal,         
Every inch GM sheet metal from NOS or 'other' cars - No sheet metal from that specific VIN ..except for the VIN plate and 'numbers' pieces?  :)

It's a very nice car, just NOT what was stated by Barrett Jackson when Pratte bought it, AND not what is implied in the current advertising.
I'd call it a super nice 'Recreation' of an original '69 Z28...
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »
RS grille emblem??
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2014, 05:45:57 PM »
Wonder if Jerry is working the sale? Might put an end to it
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2014, 09:20:20 PM »
I've got an idea, to, "put an end to it". Somebody buy my hotrod, tools, collections, cabinets, ect. I'll buy the car, and sell off the drivetrain, wheels, console, and build it back as a "minor" pro touring car. (Which is what I want anyway). That way it would not be what it is.....it'll just be another pro touring car, albet, a very pretty one. I can get license plates real easy and drive the thing. It would be me putting MY money where my mouth is............AND, I'll GIVE the documents to CRG so everyone will know about the car and it can be the end to this controversy.

(And now comes the shit storm).
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:44 AM »
Car sold for 148500 with commission. It was listed as rebody. So I assume the documents were with the vin tag at one time. I think this was before I got here
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2015, 06:30:49 PM »
From BJ description:
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Car was re-bodied and restored with all GM sheet metal, bumpers and tons of NOS GM parts.

I don't remember the "re-bodied" being there when the car was first listed. Maybe now that Jerry M is responsible for verifying all the Camaro's at BJ and this car is so well known on the Camaro boards, he requested a description change.

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Jerry MacNeish and Norman Meads were hired by Vice President of Consignment, Gary Bennett, at The Barrett Jackson Auction Company.  Our job is to authenticate all restored first-generation Camaros, Nova’s and Chevelle’s that are consigned to all Barrett Jackson auctions.  Our mission is to protect the consigners and buyers who attend these auctions by verifying that the description on all vehicles is correct.  If the description states that the car is number’s matching, it is our job to verify and certify that the drive train in the car is original to the car.  If it is not, the consigner must change the description of the vehicle.  Due to all of the fraud and misrepresentation in the car hobby today, Barrett Jackson is going the extra distance to bring honesty back to the collector car hobby.

Everything I saw in the Ron Pratte collection sold well last night and this car was no exception. I was just dissapointed that they cut to commercial when it went across the block. I would have loved to hear the commentary on that one! I suppose they wanted to avoid any controversy like last time when Pratte bought it. Anyone here attend the auction and recall what was said about the car on the block?


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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2015, 01:37:00 AM »
Seen the burnished brown copo went $300,000. I just saw a highlight and would have liked a close up of the color.
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2015, 03:12:41 AM »
Seems all the people with lots of 'funny money' showed up at that auction....?
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2015, 05:16:35 AM »
I was there and have a video with sound of the sale. I'm glad to see Pratt didn't get "hurt" on the car, and now everyone knows about the car, even the new owner. I have to say, when I heard the word, re-body, my heart skipped a beat. One thing, I'd like to know, how they figured out it is a re-body. Everyone was so sure it wasn't, back then.
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2015, 07:08:18 PM »
One thing, I'd like to know, how they figured out it is a re-body. Everyone was so sure it wasn't, back then.


Jerry M. wasn't there inspecting cars last time - he is this year.  :-)
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Re: Ron Pratte collection
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2015, 12:44:12 AM »
Can somebody please explain this all to me? How is it that what is now acknowledged as being a rebodied Z28 with a Jerry MacNeish  report from 2008 stating it has a "restoration drive train" ever be worth anything close to 148K. Confused..........
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