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General Discussion / Side Glass - Coupe or Convertible?
« on: April 02, 2018, 01:11:16 AM »
Is there a simple way to determine if uninstalled side glass is from a coupe or a convertible? As far as I know, the door glass is the same shape/size for '68 and '69 regardless of body style (correct me if wrong!) but the quarter glass is a different shape between coupe and convertible. Thanks for any tips in spotting the difference!

1969 - Orphans / 9N599457 Muncie M21
« on: January 19, 2018, 11:14:34 PM »
Muncie M21 transmission
124379N599457 or 124679N599457
Main case 3925660
Assembly stamp P9B03B or possibly P9B08B
Listed on ebay:
Located: Berlin Connecticut USA
Seller ID: chyblu
Buy It Now $1295.00

Decoding/Numbers / Documentation for 9N657909
« on: December 17, 2017, 04:20:31 AM »
I admit to being biased towards a Cortez Silver Z28, so naturally this one caught my attention:

However, looking through the detailed pictures I noted a number of red flags - like the stamped codes (!) down by the oil filter. Then the size of the font for the VIN sequence differs from the rest of the VIN on the CHP appraisal certificate, as well as certain spacing, so I wonder about the rest of the 'documentation' - broadcast copy, MSO......
Interested in your thoughts. Not trying to start vendor bashing, so could we please keep it factual  8)
Here's a few of the photos from the above ebay listing:

Originality / 68 and 69 Console Gauge Pod Trim
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:12:25 AM »
Over the past few months I've seen several different console sawtooth gauge pods with silver trim around the edges. A member here (daven1256) showed pictures of his gauge pod after restoration, with the silver edge trim applied - I think that was the first time I'd noted this detail, and have since spotted several others. My (believed) original gauge pod has no remnants of silver at all, so I'm wondering..... could it just have worn off, or was this a 68 only detail, or was there some other subtle difference, such as only custom interiors with gauges got silver accents, or maybe even different suppliers??

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor - Ebay Seller in Angola, IN
« on: October 13, 2017, 12:18:01 PM »
Buyer beware.
Ebay user 1957corvettegirl1 located in Angola IN, since May 2017.
Currently listed-

Listing heading:
"1969 Camaro COPO 427 Engine Block T0318ML 3946052 Standard Bore"
Detailed description shows the real intent:
"1969 ZL-1 BLK OR HEADS or complete off our super flow dyno your choice, Call 2604176566 for all the detail 2 complete cars ready for zl1s or L-89s X66 TAGS AND Dealer delivery info &and the pop booklets, thank for you interest Mr,Chevrolet"

Makes me wonder if Greg Long is back in 'business' in Angola IN?

Site Comments/Discussion / 20 Years of CRG
« on: August 04, 2017, 10:18:24 AM »
Noticed the '20 years of CRG' image on the home page, with the anniversary coming up in September. I would like to thank the founders, core members, site admin/mods, contributors and members, past and present, for both this site's very existence in the first place, and it's ongoing presence. I find this site invaluable in my research and general love of all things Camaro, and check in most days to keep informed. Most of you feel like old friends, I feel like I know you although we've never met.
Profound 'Thanks', and keep up the great work, one and all!

General Discussion / What do you make of this ebay listing?
« on: June 18, 2017, 12:59:09 PM »
Just spotted this:

Seller's description:
"2 1969 Camaro FRONT CLIPS VIN 12437"
"I purchased these two camaros from upstate ny!
I cut away the dash area with vin numbers!
1400 each dash . I will cut them down for shipping....
entertainment purpose only...real plates I just have no title bill of sale only
Man cave? 69 camaro talk about piece?
I will give you the bill of sale I got  from owner!!

Sounds like seller is offering two V8 VIN plates to me.....

Originality / Assembly-Line Correct 1969 Trunk Lamp (RPO U25)
« on: April 29, 2017, 04:36:56 AM »
I have a trunk lamp (RPO U25 for 1969 MY) which I believe is assembly line correct, but would like to know for sure. Seems it's not that easy to find details of an original, and (as usual) ebay is rife with items described as correct, but which have various different shaped brackets (angled in 1 or 2 planes), materials (plastic vs metal), wiring colour (orange, black or both) etc etc. NOS and over-the-counter parts are also very different, like so many other items.
So, if your car has a known factory original, I would appreciate your feedback. Also, if anyone knows what the 'BP' stamp denotes (manufacturer?).
Here's mine:

1969 - Orphans / 9N554663 Muncie M20
« on: April 23, 2017, 01:21:20 AM »
Partial VIN 19N554663
Assembly Stamp P9S15A
Ebay URL:
User ID: detail4spd
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA
BIN $1895

1969 Camaro Muncie M20 Vibratory Finished!
4 Speed Transmission
2.52 1st Gear Wide Ratio
Main Case 3925660
Tail Housing 3857584 GM
Side Cover 3950306
All numbers correct!
Date Code P9S15A
VIN 19N554663

1969 - Orphans / 9N585108 Muncie M21
« on: April 23, 2017, 01:15:32 AM »
Partial VIN 19N585108
Assembly Stamp P9A14B
Ebay URL:
User ID: ostatediesel
Location: Grand Rapids, Ohio USA
BIN $799
Muncie M21 close ratio 4 speed transmission originally out of a 1969 Camaro. This transmission was just pulled from many years of careless storage where it got some rust on the synchros and gears. The rust really isn't bad on the gears and would probably work fine as is. The tailhousing looks like it had a factory repair. The case is in great shape. No cracks or repairs. All threads are good. Real all 1969 four speed with the correct matching bolts. Chevy, Buick, Olds, Pontiac

Originality / Points Distributor Cap
« on: January 17, 2017, 12:32:31 PM »
Trying to determine if the distributor cap with my 1111480 is the correct type; it has 'Delco-Remy Patent Pending R' on the top, and is black with silver (aluminum?) contacts. I believe this makes it a 308R cap, since I'm reliably informed the 309 caps are brown with copper contacts.

My understanding is that cap markings changed as follows:
Late '50's until 1969 model year: marked 'Delco-Remy Patent Pending' (no 'R')
1969 model year until ?: marked 'Delco-Remy Patent Pending R'
? onwards: marked 'Delco-Remy Patent 2769047 R'

So my questions are, when did the patent number started showing up on the distributor caps, and is it correct that a 308 cap is black and a 309 cap brown?
Thanks for any help.

Decoding/Numbers / 1111480 Distributor Stamp
« on: October 04, 2016, 09:30:24 AM »
OK here goes:
With all the recent threads here and on similar forums about restamped engine parts, I have begun doubting things I was previously comfortable with.
Therefore I welcome opinions - hopefully favorable  ::) - on my car's distributor, pictured below.
Thanks to all

General Discussion / World Wide Camaro Club
« on: September 22, 2016, 11:50:18 AM »
Any of the members here familiar with that know why none of the First Gen Tech Articles are accessible to logged in members anymore?

Originality / 1969 Subframes - Backdrive Linkage Holes
« on: April 17, 2016, 06:48:02 AM »
Were all subframes for the '69 model year pre-drilled for the backdrive linkage pivot assembly, or were they drilled to suit application on the assembly line (i.e. 2 or 3 holes, depending on the specific pivot style)?

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