VIN tag problem

[william]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/state-bill-could-save-1959-chevy-corvette-from-the-crusher/ar-AAVceWn?ocid=msedgntp

[GMAD_Van Nuys]

I thought that the VIN tag on a 1959 Corvette was fastened with screws.

[uscrichter]

They were and that's the issue, they restored it with rivets

[william]

Virtually all 69 Camaros with the replacement dash top have incorrect rivets. Auctions have been flagging consignments for some time.

[william]

SEMA and Barrett-Jackson getting involved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/car-restorers-threatened-with-jailtime-get-help-from-sema-and-barrett-jackson/ar-AAVgv4K?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[Z282NV]

Virtually all 69 Camaros with the replacement dash top have incorrect rivets. Auctions have been flagging consignments for some time.

I believe this VIN has been removed and re-installed. What do you think about the trim tag as well?

124379N665210

https://www.garagekeptmotors.com/vehicles/2198/1969-chevrolet-copo-camaro

[william]

As the top of the dash has been replaced, the VIN tag had to be removed and re-installed. The fasteners used to re-install it may be a red flag.

Body tag looks real, rivets do not.

Here's a statement found in an ad for a Collector Car dealership.

VIN VERIFICATION: We photograph the primary VIN location of every vehicle and make sure that VIN exactly matches the vehicle's current title. Buyer agrees to hold seller harmless from any disputes arising from other hidden or secondary VINs present on the vehicle as seller only verifies the primary VIN location. If needed, it is the buyer's sole responsibility to verify secondary VIN locations their specific state may inspect, prior to purchase

This is at the bottom of every consigned vehicle description for a particular auction company.

**VIN NOTICE: DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF REGISTRATION OF THE BUYER, THE VEHICLE MAY REQUIRE AN INSPECTION AND BE SUBJECT TO A STATE-ISSUED VIN AND/OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THAT STATE.**

[Z282NV]

Caveat Emptor

[MO]

Caveat Emptor

LOL!

[camaronut]

So - is it fair to say that 90% of all restored first gen Camaros fit into this scenario?

[rich69rs]

So - is it fair to say that 90% of all restored first gen Camaros fit into this scenario?

?   I sincerely doubt it.

Richard

[camaronut]

So - is it fair to say that 90% of all restored first gen Camaros fit into this scenario?

?   I sincerely doubt it.

Richard

What I meant is that 90% of the cars we restore have rusted out dash panels needing total replacement.  That takes removing the vin plates from the rusted dash panels and attaching them to the new one.

[william]

Some states do a deep dive on cars brought in from other states. Some don't. IF they observe evidence of tampering, they may insist on inspecting the con VINs. If those don't match, you could have a problem. I see plenty of state-issued VIN tags on ebay. Some states will impound a car with a VIN tag discrepancy.

This is nothing new, posted the first 'Caveat Emptor' 8 years ago. What is new is auctions becoming more aware of repro body tags and breached VIN tag installations. Most note the condition if observed and add verbiage to descriptions to make bidders aware there could be a problem registering the car.       

[camaronut]

Uh boi............

[David K]

Dozens of pictures of everything else. 1 picture of trim tag, 1 of Protect-O-Plate. Pay Jerry Mcneish to verify it if you're seriously interested.