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#41
1969 - Orphans / DZ Engine 19N548771
Last post by melav8r - May 11, 2026, 11:34:26 PM #42
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by bcmiller - May 11, 2026, 03:05:32 PMIt's CE344177 so yes 1973 warranty or over the counter engine.
#43
Originality / Re: 1969 Space saver spare
Last post by hihorse - May 11, 2026, 05:42:24 AMQuote from: john302 on May 09, 2026, 05:11:12 PMwhy do you think that ?Never seen a space saver with YJ rim.
BTW how do you know your car came with N65?
#44
1969 - Orphans / Muncie M21 19N670681
Last post by melav8r - May 10, 2026, 09:28:15 PMThis M21 with 3946798, Z28 or L78, tag is on FB.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/195421477350/permalink/10164426929152351/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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#45
1969 - Orphans / Re: Muncie M20 19N684940
Last post by melav8r - May 10, 2026, 02:54:16 PMMaybe not 🤷🏻�♂️
Someone swapped out the tapped shift shafts for 3/8 bolts with 5/16 studs on the forward gears and a 3/8 stud on reverse gear.
Currently being rebuilt by Brad @ TransAction in SoCal, known him for about 45 years! He's replacing the 5/16 fwd gear shift shaft studs with 3/8. Planning on running this in my 55 150 project.
It'll be available to the owner of the 69 Camaro until I get my 55 going.
Someone swapped out the tapped shift shafts for 3/8 bolts with 5/16 studs on the forward gears and a 3/8 stud on reverse gear.
Currently being rebuilt by Brad @ TransAction in SoCal, known him for about 45 years! He's replacing the 5/16 fwd gear shift shaft studs with 3/8. Planning on running this in my 55 150 project.
It'll be available to the owner of the 69 Camaro until I get my 55 going.
#46
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by 169INDY - May 10, 2026, 10:42:31 AMThe Color of the engine would be irrelevant to year.
The
"CE3,,,,,,,,,,,"
I believe the 3 = 1973, the stamp under the starter will indicate build also along with the Casting date at the back of the block.
The
"CE3,,,,,,,,,,,"
I believe the 3 = 1973, the stamp under the starter will indicate build also along with the Casting date at the back of the block.
#47
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by 396 SS/RS - May 10, 2026, 09:39:06 AMVery nice! I'd like to see that out of the garage where it can be combed over well. With the options it could have originally been a "Brass Hat" car like mine is.
#48
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by KevinW - May 10, 2026, 08:04:04 AMOne more thing, if you get the car and have to replace anything, (DO NOT THROW ANYTHING AWAY!).
Under dash pic is a good, power top wiring is there.
Engine pics also look good, smog is still there, PS cap is original, Radiator look orig, codes are stamped on the tanks to verify original ( https://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml).
Chrome air cleaner top is factory, correct gas filter with 1/4" return line is correct, RS wiper motor with headlight washer valve (RS) is there, finned valve covers might be an add-on or part of engine dress up option, those need further research.
Engine has the motor mount recall brackets/cables. Only two thing stands out, the fan spacer looks too long, might be a replacement. And carb springs look missing (might just be hiding).
Under dash pic is a good, power top wiring is there.
Engine pics also look good, smog is still there, PS cap is original, Radiator look orig, codes are stamped on the tanks to verify original ( https://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml).
Chrome air cleaner top is factory, correct gas filter with 1/4" return line is correct, RS wiper motor with headlight washer valve (RS) is there, finned valve covers might be an add-on or part of engine dress up option, those need further research.
Engine has the motor mount recall brackets/cables. Only two thing stands out, the fan spacer looks too long, might be a replacement. And carb springs look missing (might just be hiding).
#49
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by KevinW - May 10, 2026, 07:46:10 AMShame about the CE engine, Dealerships did replace quite a few engines under warranty at the time. 7 years later is surprising though. 
POP info is here: https://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes
1st line is the VIN, (LA vert, should match the VIN on the dash), C is for a Carter carb.
2nd line: T0121HA engine code matches a SS350/4 speed, all good there
BS0117G is the rear, 3.31 posi, should match stamped numbers on pass axle tube), 2 is for Build month (Feb).
3rd line: P9B01 trans (Muncie 4 speed, 69 model year, B month (Feb), 01 day of month. Probably a M20 as no letter code after the 01. 1133 is for options (power steering, power brakes, any radio & disc brakes)
Bowtie was just a symbol used, all POPs had that.
Having a POP for an LA car (any 1st gen really!) is fantastic. Proves what you have. You can use the trans and rear numbers to see if those parts are original too.
One pic of the rocker is a good sign, but you would have to get car on the lift to really dig into it. If car has been stored in a good climate and you don't see any obvious rust behind wheels and under rocker, that is a very good sign.
One way to know if rockers are compromised on a vert is to see how doors open and close. Verts sagging will have very tight doors at the rear. If doors don't open or you have to pry them up to get them unlatched that is a bad sign. Door hinges also sag, but there is a big different in hinge sag versus rocker sag.
But the question remains, why is this not in your garage yet?
POP info is here: https://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes
1st line is the VIN, (LA vert, should match the VIN on the dash), C is for a Carter carb.
2nd line: T0121HA engine code matches a SS350/4 speed, all good there
BS0117G is the rear, 3.31 posi, should match stamped numbers on pass axle tube), 2 is for Build month (Feb).
3rd line: P9B01 trans (Muncie 4 speed, 69 model year, B month (Feb), 01 day of month. Probably a M20 as no letter code after the 01. 1133 is for options (power steering, power brakes, any radio & disc brakes)
Bowtie was just a symbol used, all POPs had that.
Having a POP for an LA car (any 1st gen really!) is fantastic. Proves what you have. You can use the trans and rear numbers to see if those parts are original too.
One pic of the rocker is a good sign, but you would have to get car on the lift to really dig into it. If car has been stored in a good climate and you don't see any obvious rust behind wheels and under rocker, that is a very good sign.
One way to know if rockers are compromised on a vert is to see how doors open and close. Verts sagging will have very tight doors at the rear. If doors don't open or you have to pry them up to get them unlatched that is a bad sign. Door hinges also sag, but there is a big different in hinge sag versus rocker sag.
But the question remains, why is this not in your garage yet?
#50
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 RS/SS cowl tag questi...
Last post by Nailhead - May 10, 2026, 05:10:27 AMI was not able to jack up the car but I was able to get a good pic of the engine ID. I believe that this might be a CE (crate engine). 1977? Possibly a 1976 engine due to the Chevrolet orange paint vs corporate blue? No sign of serious rust issues. Protect-o-plate in glovebox. What does the C, 2, bowtie on the far right (in column 29) designate?