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Don_Lightfoot
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« on: December 01, 2011, 07:43:30 PM »

As some of you may know I have a part time hobby of replicating various original decals either due to the repros not being correct (almost all of them) or certain ones are just not available from the aftermarket.

I have had several requests over the past year to do the Jacking Instructions for a 68 Z/28.  Up until this time nobody has been able to provide me with a picture of an original one which we need to work with.  An enthusiast has now provided me with pictures of two originals supposedly from two different Z/28's.  This decal is dated 1-10-67 and has a part number of 3909124.  I have two questions which hopefully you can help with:

1) - Is the above date and number correct for a 68 Z/28?
2) - I have looked at two repros of this decal which have the usual alignment and spacing errors.  However, the repros show a "screwdriver" as part of the jacking equipment.  Did a 68 Z/28 originally come with a screwdriver which I assume would have been used for the trim rings?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 11:00:30 PM »

Hi Don,
Yes, I believe the 3909124 would be the correct part number, but no expert here. Not sure of the correct date that would have been used starting the 68 model year but that one might be as I know the conv. part #3909135 used into the 68 model year had a date of 6-24-66. Here are two pics of an original 3909135 that I have and yes it shows the screw driver. The primary difference is the 3909135 has a different jack orientation compared to the 3909124.

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 03:31:59 AM »

I think 3909124 was used for all 67 and 68 coupes. 3909135 was for 67 and 68 convertibles.
I've seen a 9/7/66 version of 9124 (it was on an original car, but it may not be original). I don't see the difference between it and the 1/10/67 version. All you really need to do is find some early 67 cars and some late 68 cars and confirm the dates on the labels. That will tell you how many revisions there were.

A 68 Z would never have a screwdriver in the trunk from the factory. That was only for mag and wire-wheel cover cars. But same label for all cars. Smiley

The labels changed for 69.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 10:40:11 AM »

Chick - Good information, thanks.    BTW, did you get your "investigations" done as per your last email  Smiley

Kurt - The relativity of the screwdriver makes sense as a trim ring would not need to be removed to change the wheel.  Thanks for your input.

NOTE - I updated my website link below as it previously showed an old URL.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 12:37:16 PM »

I think 3909124 was used for all 67 and 68 coupes. 3909135 was for 67 and 68 convertibles.
I've seen a 9/7/66 version of 9124 (it was on an original car, but it may not be original). I don't see the difference between it and the 1/10/67 version. All you really need to do is find some early 67 cars and some late 68 cars and confirm the dates on the labels. That will tell you how many revisions there were.

The original jacking instructions decal on my LOS built 02C '68 Z/28 is part number 3909124 and is dated 9-7-66.

Paul
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 01:40:12 PM »

Interesting Paul. Can you confirm if there are any differences between your decal and the one below, other than the date?

When I first got into these things for Chevelles there were significant differences on survivor cars as to what one they got (EG - 69 SS Chevelle cars didn't always get the SS decal, some got the regular decal.  70 SS Chevelle decals had an early and late version, but there seemed to be no logical cutoff date between the two, I attribute this to being some holdovers at certain plants).  There were obviously a lot more plants building Chevelles, but could be a similar circumstance for Camaros between Norwood and Los Angeles  Huh  Huh  Huh


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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 03:19:06 PM »

Interesting Paul. Can you confirm if there are any differences between your decal and the one below, other than the date?

Don,

My decal has the screw driver shown and labeled in the illustration.  Also, the wheel removal instruction are different.  GM added a sentence (in parenthesis) at the end of the wheel removal instructions.  My decal reads as follows:

WHEEL REMOVAL  REMOVE TRIM COVER WITH
WHEEL WRENCH. LOOSEN, BUT DO NOT REMOVE
WHEEL NUTS BEFORE USING JACK.
(WITH SIMULATED WIRE OR MAGNESIUM TRIM
COVERS, REMOVE WITH SCREW DRIVER).


Other than the above two differences and the date (9-7-66) the decal is the same as the one you posted.

I wonder, since my car was assembled at Van Nuys, is this decal the same as the one GM was installing in the full-size Chevrolets at the time?    Huh

Kurt, JohnZ, what do you think?    Roll Eyes

Paul
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 03:48:25 PM »

And just to throw a wrench in the works...

I was just looking at some photos I took of a LOS built 04D Rally Sport coupe survivor.  This car has a different version of the jacking instruction: part no. 3947628, dated 2-9-68.

Paul
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 03:51:56 PM »

I thought we were talking screwdrivers Paul, not wrenches  Grin

I assume the picture below is the same as the one on your car.  If I recall, somebody sent me this one quite a while ago and said it was on Jerry's car.  Wonder if these ones are actually for a 67 and were held over until used up  Huh  Huh

That other one you mentioned is the only 68 Camaro one we have done so far.  A picture is on my website.  I was advised by the person providing the original picture that it was for an SS coupe.


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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 03:58:23 PM »

I assume the picture below is the same as the one on your car.




That's it Don, exactly!

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 04:08:27 PM »

That other one you mentioned is the only 68 Camaro one we have done so far.  A picture is on my website.  I was advised by the person providing the original picture that it was for an SS coupe.

Don, I just check your website (nice work).  Yup, that's the one (3947628) I was talking about on the 04D RS survivor.  This RS coupe has a 327cid/210hp V8, so the decal is not exclusive to a SS.

Paul   
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 05:29:46 PM »

Yup, that's the one (3947628) I was talking about on the 04D RS survivor.  This RS coupe has a 327cid/210hp V8, so the decal is not exclusive to a SS.

Paul   

Good to know Pual.  I've made a note and sdjusted the wording on my website.  Thank you.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 06:21:45 PM »

Here's my photo of the jacking instructions from the RS survivor...



GM added the "JACK OPERATION" and the "CAUTION" instructions on this version.  They also removed the screw driver and related wording.

Paul
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2011, 06:53:25 PM »

Hey Don, any chance you'll be reproducing the 9-7-66 dated 3909124 version in the future?

Fellow CRG enthusiasts, here's a direct link to Don's website with his current reproduced decals...  http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss/frame.html
Once there, just click on "Specialized Detail Decals"

Paul
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2011, 09:42:15 PM »

As usual. now I'd like to know what my 05D Z28 should have on it?  I think I have a repro and I know I got a posi NOS sticker from Jerry, but now I'll have to look for my jacking sticker.  I'm pretty sure the one on it is wrong.
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