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« on: February 04, 2011, 07:35:03 PM »

I am remembering something from the past about a supposed 375/327 super stock car ion my area. Was there such a thing and where can I get info?
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 08:45:27 PM »

No such thing from the factory.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 09:35:19 PM »

375 horsepower, 327 cubic inch, was a Corvette FI motor in 1965.  That, if I recall correctly, was the highest horsepower rating ever factory assigned to a 327.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 08:54:48 AM »

For first generation Camaros, the Super Stock package came standard with the L48 engine (350).  You could substitute a larger engine (396) L34, L35, L78, or L89 if available for that particular year, but not a smaller engine (230, 250, 283 (1967 Swiss plant only), 307, or 327. And of course a Super Sport never had a 302 either (Z28 only).

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 09:04:42 AM »

Thanks for the info guys, I will have to track that car down anyway and get the facts on it. It was a Super Stock race car not just a super sport package that I am talking about. Most manufactures had race packages that could be bought with the right connections.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 09:50:43 AM »

During the early days of "Super Stock" as a drag racing class, various sanctioning bodies (NHRA, AHRA, IHRA, NASCAR, plus an array of local entities) offered a variety of categories under the label "Super Stock."  By 1967, NHRA had pretty much locked in a set of rules that defined "Super Stock" as a car that had been produced in quantities of at least 50 units and was available to the general public. 

In 1966 and '67 Ford offered the 427 Fairlane as a viable option for Super Stock. Some were equipped with a lightweight, scooped hood and there were a few "Tunnel Ram" versions around.  Eventually, Ford developed the 1968 Cobra Jet Mustang and and introduced a flock of them in Super Stock at the 1968 NHRA Winternationals.

In 1968, Chrysler pushed the limit of the Super Stock rules by commissioning the construction of 50 Barracudas and 50 Darts equipped with lightweight body parts and the "race Hemi" powerplant that had originally been developed for the 1964 and '65 A/FX cars that kicked off the "Funny Car" craze. 

In 1967, General Motors added the 375 horsepower 396 (aluminum and iron-headed versions) to the Camaro line in order to stay in the game.  Two years later, GM moved further into the market with the low-production COPO 1969 Camaro and Chevelle and eventually the ZL1.    While some Camaros competed in the lower classes of Super Stock with the 350, 295 horsepower engine, the 327, 275 horsepower engine, and the 1966 327, 350 horsepower Nova was available, they were close to the bottom of the class structure that originally stopped at SS/I and SS/IA.

In the final analysis, the car you have described is what it is.  In NHRA, many first generation Camaros, Novas, and Chevelles competed in Super Stock with the 327, 275 horsepower motor, especially after the class was broadly expanded in 1972, and if the car was campaigned as a "Super Stocker" under the rules of one of the sanctioning bodies other than NHRA, all bets are off.  Their class descriptions could have easily accommodated combinations that were never produced or sold.

We'll all be interested to see what you find.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 10:56:45 AM »

I remember those hemi cudas. A friend had one in the mid or late 70s. Very tough to beat if he made a good pass.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 11:40:21 AM »

I remember those hemi cudas. A friend had one in the mid or late 70s. Very tough to beat if he made a good pass.

Considering the tires and suspensions of the day, a "good pass" was not always a foregone conclusion.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 12:57:06 PM »

I misread the original post.  I was referring Super Sport factory packages.  Sorry about that ....................  Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 12:10:51 AM »

Thanks folks, now you put the pressure on me to track it down. I'm leaving for PA tomorrow for the next three weeks but will do some digging when I get back. It hopefully will be a short search since I the know the guy that owned (owns?) it for 30+ years. He has a shop in Tallahassee I can run by visit.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 04:29:49 PM »

No SS first gen Camaro less than 350 CID. All 350 and up are SS or COPO. no 375 hp 327 from the factory in a first gen Camaro.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 05:06:31 PM »

I thought LM1s and L65s were only available in non-SS cars?

And as mentiuoned above, I am referring to a SUPER STOCK package not a Super Sport package.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 10:54:05 PM »

I have never heard of a Super Stock package for a Camaro from the factory.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 08:14:44 AM »

The small block Super Stock 1967 Camaro was called a Z/28 Smiley

AHRA was more lenient with the 50 car rule and they allowed a 427, 396 and 302 Camaro to run in their stock class.

There is a letter from AHRA to Nickey Chevy where they certified the 427, 396 and 352 (I think 352 was a typo for 302)

I don't think Nickey made the 50 car minimum and a deal was made with Yenko and Harrell to make the 50 minimum
of 427 Camaros and they ran one in AHRA stocl class.

There were a bunch of 302 Z/28s that ran in NHRA and AHRA class racing
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 11:58:58 AM »


And as mentiuoned above, I am referring to a SUPER STOCK package not a Super Sport package.

There was no such thing as a factory "Super Stock" package - only the SS (Super Sport) option.
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