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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #75 on: July 29, 2009, 12:36:58 PM »
My Final post on this subject....

I WAS THERE when these cars rolled into the dealerships and my friends bought them(I couldn't afford one). I saw them and they were not gloss.

I saw these cars in my youth as well. I have to agree, I never saw one with the tan pan painted gloss like the Yenko shown in this post. Of course I probably never saw an actual Yenko then either.

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #76 on: July 29, 2009, 01:32:17 PM »
  LOL...I was also there when these cars rolled into the dealerships but remember nothing.

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #77 on: July 29, 2009, 03:15:56 PM »
JohnZ also insisted his steel brake lines around the master cylinder came painted black.

Nope, I never said they were built that way - perhaps you have me confused with someone else. They were black on my original/unrestored '69 Z/28, but that was because the (Canadian-delivered new) car was dealer-undercoated, including the brake pipes from the distribution block to the subframe.
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #78 on: July 29, 2009, 03:58:42 PM »
I don't think we can put the COPO and Yenko cars in the same category when considering tailpan paint.  I have seen original 69 COPO cars, I remember a silver one in particular, that had regular body color paint on the tailpan.

Does anyone have an SS car that they know the history of the car from Day 1 that it left the dealership?  I would put a lot of weight behind what they think.

I am not sure if anyone would want to do this, and I am not asking anyone to do it, but if you tailpan is glossy, it would be interesting to see what it looks like without any wax on it.

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #79 on: July 29, 2009, 05:23:48 PM »
Mr. Miyagi was there too
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2009, 06:05:31 PM »
I don't think we can put the COPO and Yenko cars in the same category when considering tailpan paint.  I have seen original 69 COPO cars, I remember a silver one in particular, that had regular body color paint on the tailpan.

Does anyone have an SS car that they know the history of the car from Day 1 that it left the dealership?  I would put a lot of weight behind what they think.

I am not sure if anyone would want to do this, and I am not asking anyone to do it, but if you tailpan is glossy, it would be interesting to see what it looks like without any wax on it.


The very early yenko's were X66 coded and painted just like any other big block. Nothing special about the paint process on them vs any other camaro.
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #81 on: July 29, 2009, 06:51:21 PM »
Here is a suggestion, since no one can definitely prove the exact color, why don't we all agree to just paint them satin (30%) for creating a current standard since gloss looks absolutely awful.

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I agree 100%. I will do that.
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #82 on: September 29, 2009, 03:16:21 PM »
For what it's worth my 68 43k mile RS/SS did not have a gloss tail pan nor were the bottoms of the doors or rockers gloss. I have been around enough gloss black lacquer... mine was not gloss. I will bet that the wrong "black" gun was picked up more than a few times during the process. I am willing to bet that more than one person was involved with the process on each vehicle which leaves open the possibility of some having gloss tails and semi rockers or visa versa...
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2009, 01:56:32 PM »
I wonder if you are right then there must be some gloss firewalls as well....hmmmmm ???

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2009, 05:02:16 PM »
There is an LA built Cortez Silver Z/28 with Fathom Green firewall "blackout"

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2009, 04:57:20 AM »
Here are pics of 26000 mile 69 that is still with the orig owner. Orig owner says the tail panel has always been gloss.

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2009, 03:16:52 PM »
Any chance the original owner has some pictures of that tail panel from when he/she bought the car?  I bet not.
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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2009, 03:27:58 PM »
Are you saying "I bet not" because you think the owner repainted it ?  Because you are stuck on it being semi gloss ?

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Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #89 on: December 19, 2009, 05:37:19 PM »
Are you saying "I bet not" because you think the owner repainted it ?  Because you are stuck on it being semi gloss ?

No, not repainted, just stuck on the fact that Lacquer becomes shinier the more you rub on it.  Could be that way now from years of polishing or even some inexperienced or over zealous prep guy at the dealer hit it with a wheel before he even saw the car to buy it.  I’ll even buy firstgenaddict’s theory of grabbing the wrong gun or my spin on it, problem with the semi-gloss gun and using full gloss until the semi was fixed but firmly believe they were all supposed to be semi from the factory. 

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