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Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« on: February 06, 2019, 04:47:35 AM »
I fully well know the..  'it's worthless without pictures' deal but..
Can anyone try and give me a range of current prices for 1968 Z 2/8's in the US currently, or what this Summer could hold for values that such a vehicle might bring?
I have one that I have owned for over 30 years now and it hasn't moved more than 3 times in each of the past 3 Summers (and very little in many Summers previously unfortunately) and with our driving seasons here pretty short duration compared to the US or even Southern Parts of Canada - that won't change - nor will my lack of interest now or indeed time to play with it, going forward.
The car is a 63,000 mile mostly original version, with a 355 engine in it presently with many parts on it from the original and 'born with'  .030 over - '678 block, perfect uncut crank, stock rods, TRW L2210AF pistons, ARP fasteners, 291 heads, 610 intake, orig. clutch fan, orig. pan, orig. windage tray etc. etc. etc.. which is completely rebuilt and residing on an engine stand in my garage.
This engine also has a very rare '266 distributor which few of these engines were blessed with (leftovers from '67 production according to sources of mine who have discussed and confirmed this with Jerry MacNeish and had similarly dated and equipped cars judged) but it is missing the original carb and alternator presently.
The engine and transmission are original to the vehicle but the 3:73 12 bolt presently seems to be dated a couple of days too close to the delivery date - so I suspect it was possibly swapped in a warranty deal at some point shortly after delivery into Southern Ontario Canada.
Rumored to originally have been sold to a NHL hockey player (probably Toronto Maple Leaf player - because of the dealer proximity to Toronto) I have confirmed the ownership back as far as the 2nd owner in personal conversations.
It is a Norwood 02D car - originally with '302' fender badges (just barely still installed before the GM swap over to the newer Z2/8-type) changed out by a previous owner wishing for more profile I guess, and was an original PP Seafrost Green/black stripes, repainted (still very decent paint) in the 1980's red with black stripes.  Interior black standard, original with no console and in very nice condition with non original radio installed and aftermarket dash pad (original cracked one I still have).
Cowl hood (original flat one with the car still) and front and rear spoilers added as well as air shocks and some small trim pieces..
Originally a fairly low option KD1 (smog) exempt Z2/8  as delivered into Canada as per George Zapora (GM Vintage Car Services) and their vintage car documentation department.
Rear quarters were changed in 1980 with OEM GM units - but from what I'm told there was very little need to do so - just a very picky owner who otherwise left the car untouched and stripped it down to bare metal for the repaint at that point, there was some evidence on the floor pans of the original green overspray when I got it.
Original chrome is decent for a car of this vintage, original gas tank, wheels, Hurst shifter added, T3 headlights, floor pans and rockers very solid and good, perfect trunk, original glass except windshield, needs better window fuzzies (I have repop versions - but haven't put them on), and I have brand new door rubbers which I can't seem to get the time to install over the past 3 years - which seems to be a common theme here and shows how much I've actually had sufficient time to play around with the car or urge to do so!
I would like to sell it is the US depending on how much trouble and cost it will be to do so - since where I live here in Northern Ontario there isn't much appreciation of this type of vehicle or subsequent value given to ones that are fairly rare and/or unusual.. keep getting.. the "Yea - I had one just like yours when I was in high school.. 'cept mine was a convertible and had an automatic, with air conditioning.. wish I still had it" type of thing - if that makes any sense at all and emphasizes my point!
My wife has finally convinced me it needs to go, and as much as it makes me feel 18 all over again every time I fire it up -at my age now and condition, maybe that's not necessarily a good thing in some ways.. Replaced knees, shoulders, and an impeding hip operation keeps me from even getting in or out gracefully or from driving it well  - so I'm realizing 'the time has come' if you catch my drift..
I do have some older pictures from 10 or more years back - but have never been successful trying to put any up here and my old Photobucket account is probably inoperable now I'm sure..

This kinda hurts to have to do but it is what it is..
Just trying to start getting plans organized - so any decent stabs at giving some pricing ideas are much appreciated!

Note: This long and rambling post is NOT intended as a 'fishing expedition' or veiled 'For Sale' effort here - so Please take it for what the intent is, and my appreciation is great towards anyone who can try and throw some estimates of current values my way!
Thanks very much.. Randy             

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2019, 09:01:02 AM »
Well FWIW,  2 restored 68 Z cars sold at BJ no reserve in the mid 60's and I believe Jerry certified them as original drive train cars. Yours sounds like it is more of a driver and needs to be gone through. I would say around 35-40k without seeing pics, and just off of what you described.
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2019, 09:33:00 PM »
Once you got it ready to sell, what condition would you realistically say it is in? What looked like a decent #2+ 68 Z sold for $44k at Mecum this January.
I'd think Bullitt65 is spot on.
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2019, 09:45:44 PM »
Well I am a blind Jedi master car evaluator...🤓 😂

(If you send me pics I may be able to post it, for others to chime in on value.  BULLITT65@aol.com)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 11:12:17 PM »
I don't disagree with the estimated value range. A definite plus is the GM of Canada documentation - that alone adds a lot ot the potential value to the car above any other lesser features. There are a lot of '68's out there lacking documentation that would be worth considerably more if so equipped.

I think I would far prefer Seafoam than Resale Red, but it likely won't hurt the value during the sale. Sounds like a nice ride - wish you the best when you have to cut it loose. I've only ever had to sell one keeper, with that tempered by the fact that the sale allowed me to bring my '68 home to fill the void.

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Steve
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 10:15:59 AM »
Randy and I own family vehicles as our born with engines were both built December 21, 1967 and both have the same early dated distributor.
Overall most accurate nicely restored 68zs are in the 65k range but there are always exceptions. This per the review would assume to be in some driver category. As pointed out the paperwork is a plus but the original engine is huge and proves what it is. The downside when looking for an original will be the paint change for many, and possibly to some the rear. Id love to see detailed pics and hesitate to value as Ive already communicated to Randy Id b interested in owning to join our 68z.
On another note it is interesting our cars were built roughly 6 weeks apart yet our engines assembled at Flint the same day. Another example of no in first out first.
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2019, 04:08:15 PM »
Appreciate your comments Chick - as I sat here and typed out the first post I must admit it really got to me about getting to this point and it's not going to get any easier.. I can already see that!
Guess some days (especially long Winter ones when the snowbanks in the driveway are taller like today, than my wife's little RAV 4) it's just harder to imagine being 18 again and taking cars like this out on test drives at local dealerships or in fact even living on a daily basis with vehicles like this year-round -verses today's 'nanny' cars..
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2019, 07:09:25 PM »
I will try to load a couple of pics of his car. He told me these were taken 10 yrs ago FWIW
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2019, 07:15:02 PM »
side shot. A bit to high for my taste, but that how guys liked to run them BITD.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2019, 07:17:03 PM »
rear pic
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2019, 07:18:32 PM »
engine shot
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2019, 07:20:25 PM »
interior shot
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2019, 07:29:42 PM »
I remember this car from a few years ago.    Let me know when you come to a number on the car.  I might know a person or 2 that might be interested.  Take care, Darrell





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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 07:37:55 PM »
side shot. A bit to high for my taste, but that how guys liked to run them BITD.
Assume the air shocks! Randy, u might want to have a list prepared of all the tough original items it has along with what it might not. Good example is radiator and tag, tire jack & date code, wheels and date codes, master cyl., brake booster, etc. Your plenty familiar with these rascals and time is on your side. It will help for potential buyers to make the leap and come take a look.
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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Re: Valuation of 1968 Z 2/8's in the US market..
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2019, 08:01:32 PM »
Dutch why did you start a new topic about the value of your car? The old thread Darrel posted is the exact same thing we have here?
(If I would have seen that I wouldn't have wasted my time resizing the pics and posting. ) >:(
sorry guys

1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV