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kenmerr80

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Thoughts on this stamp?
« on: September 13, 2018, 02:31:59 PM »
Just recently purchased this car.   i knew it had a CE block but i know nothing else about them.  What was the general process of these.  I can see remnants of a 3 and 4 on the pad.  What is your thoughts?  Thanks

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william

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Re: Thoughts on this stamp?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 03:01:17 PM »
Warranty short and fitted blocks were made to order. Looks like a 1972 build. Unless you have paperwork showing the replacement, no telling how it got there.

http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#service

Scroll down to "Service Engine (CE) and Transmission Coding"

That's a repro dash top. VIN tag has been off the car.


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Re: Thoughts on this stamp?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 03:33:35 PM »
Just recently purchased this car.   i knew it had a CE block but i know nothing else about them.  What was the general process of these.  I can see remnants of a 3 and 4 on the pad.  What is your thoughts?  Thanks

How do the rest of the engine component (heads, intake, carb, distributor, alternator) dates compare to the build date of the car?
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kenmerr80

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Re: Thoughts on this stamp?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 09:38:50 PM »
Going to do my best to pull numbers off as much as i can this weekend.   I have just never known much about "replacement blocks" other than CE meant so.   For example what were the warranty time frames back in that era? (Im 36...)   Were the busted engines sent back to the plant for rebuilds as CE blocks or were CE's fresh builds?  In my picture you can see the remnants of a 3 and a 4 which makes me ask. 

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Re: Thoughts on this stamp?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 01:46:56 PM »
CE short block was totally new.   If a warranteed block was *rebuildable*, then the rebuild was done at the dealership, but usually it was *cheaper* for GM to just provide a replacement short block, although I suspect if an owner screamed that he didn't want a replacement block and that the original was rebuildable, then that might have made a difference...

Warranty at the time was 5/50 (5 yrs or 50K miles) on the drivetrain major components.
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Re: Thoughts on this stamp?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 02:31:14 PM »
After the CE, the next digit appears to be a 2. That means a 1972 model year CE (Chevrolet Engine).

As William stated, unless you have paperwork to determine when it was replaced, there is no telling when that was put in the car. Could have been in the 80s, 90s or even more recent. I have several CE coded blocks, with casting dates from the late 1967 calendar year into 1974.

Some information here.
http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#service

I have heard stories that when parts were replaced under warranty that local dealerships were told to destroy the damaged parts locally. Think sledgehammer.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now 468 cubic inch BBC/M21
67 RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016