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KurtS

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CRG Shifter Report
« on: April 02, 2016, 06:40:18 AM »
This one has been a **long** time coming, but here's a report on Floor Shifters for Manual Transmissions by Martin Foltz and myself. With a lot of help from a lot of people.
http://www.camaros.org/shifters.shtml
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 09:36:02 AM »
Great job and a big thank you to all involved.
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 11:53:25 AM »
Kurt , Martin nice job just read through the report ...

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 12:33:09 PM »
Great report!  Its just my shifters are older than I thought :(  Oh well

BTW, black phosphate as a finish? That's what it looks like mostly.

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 02:05:25 PM »
Excellent job. Thank you Martin!

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 03:13:17 PM »
Great job guys!

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 03:42:53 PM »
as always....Very Professional Job. Thank You for your work Martin and Kurt.

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 04:20:44 PM »
EXCELLENT report Martin and Kurt. Looks great!

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2016, 06:32:12 PM »
As Ed said.....X2.  I have been accumulating 67 & 68 Muncie shifter parts and information for about ten years now and this data certainly verifies my findings.  There is one item that I noticed wasn't mentioned or included on the photos.....on the 68 AIM there is a spacer (#3941824) on the shifter rods.  Has the authors ever discovered the reason for this spacer?
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 09:05:19 PM »
Wow! Hard to imagine how much work went into this helpful report. Huge thank you Martin & Kurt.
Now, a question:
Is it possible that a Firebird Shifter (Hurst 69) could have been put on a Camaro on the assembly line?
2 thoughts:
Before  F-bird came to N-wood, shipped batch wrong or shortage?
After F-bird made at N-wood, mix up on the line?

If the moderators feel this reply should be in it's own post,  Please move it. I thought it was relevant here.
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 10:30:44 PM »
Would this be considered a Marti report?😀 I couldn't help it! Great job guys
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2016, 10:41:03 PM »
As Ed said.....X2.  I have been accumulating 67 & 68 Muncie shifter parts and information for about ten years now and this data certainly verifies my findings.  There is one item that I noticed wasn't mentioned or included on the photos.....on the 68 AIM there is a spacer (#3941824) on the shifter rods.  Has the authors ever discovered the reason for this spacer?

I posted in that thread and made a speculation.  No definitive answer has been found.
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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2016, 10:44:48 PM »
Now, a question:
Is it possible that a Firebird Shifter (Hurst 69) could have been put on a Camaro on the assembly line?
2 thoughts:
Before  F-bird came to N-wood, shipped batch wrong or shortage?
After F-bird made at N-wood, mix up on the line?

In my opinion, it could be possible. No way to prove one way or the other in my opinion.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 - now 468 ci, M21, 12 bolt
Looking for 68 Camaro with body number NOR 181016

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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2016, 12:15:18 AM »
Nice job on the shifter report

I "think" the rod spacers were used to allow easer access to the adjustment nuts. When you put in the alignment shim, the adjusters are also in line. The spacers offset the adjuster nuts and makes it easer to get a wrench on them.

I looked at my sets of rods and some have the spacer and some don't.

The spacers may not have always been installed as they show in AIM drawings

I have been working with shifters for many years and the Muncie unit is a real "Rube Goldberg" design but it can work well when set up correctly.


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Re: CRG Shifter Report
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2016, 12:28:46 AM »
Great job Martin and Kurt - another treasure trove of information!   Much appreciated. 
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