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One hidden vin different
« on: February 12, 2016, 02:39:46 AM »
I have a 1967 Camaro that I have owned since 1980 and has been off the road since '82. I am starting a rotisserie restoration on it and noticed the two hidden vin# are different. The vin tag on the door jamb matches the cowl# and the engine# but the one under the heater motor is way different. The numbers are 50179 apart. There is no evidence that the panel section was replaced. This is an early number car (under 150) Has anyone else experienced this?

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 02:42:12 AM »
I have a 1967 Camaro that I have owned since 1980 and has been off the road since '82. I am starting a rotisserie restoration on it and noticed the two hidden vin# are different. The vin tag on the door jamb matches the cowl# and the engine# but the one under the heater motor is way different. The numbers are 50179 apart. There is no evidence that the panel section was replaced. This is an early number car (under 150) Has anyone else experienced this?
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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 03:54:03 AM »
i'd be looking VERY closely at the metal work around those hidden VIn's...  The '67 Camaro had a Stainless VIn plate didn't it?  soldered or welded on the jamb?   Those VIn plates are fairly easy to remove and sometimes find themselves on the 'different car'??   The non-matching hidden VINs would indicate, on first glance to be from different cars (ie. one of them is wrong for that car).   I suppose it's possible that someone replaced a section of the firewall behind the heater for some reason (wreck damage? or ??), but it's probably most likely that the other two were taken from another car.
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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 10:57:20 PM »
Hopefully these pictures help. The door jamb, engine and upper cowl vin is 7N100143 but the one below the heater motor is 7N150322. Absolutely does not look like the panel with the odd number was ever changed, or the upper cowl section. Spot welds are consistent with others throughout the car. Tag has correct rosettes. Again I bought this car 36 years ago for $1000 when it wasn't that special, just an older car.

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 10:58:28 PM »
Can't get the pictures to load. I'll keep trying.

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 11:07:05 PM »
Can't get the pictures to load. I'll keep trying.

Read this for help on posting photos...

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7809.0

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 11:07:16 PM »
If you cant figure it out you can email them to me and Ill post them

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Re: One hidden vin different
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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 04:11:23 AM »
I've never seen a engine VIN with a curve like that.
In regards to the firewall VIN, maybe after hitting and seeing the number was wrong, that
it got corrected and the correct VIN was then hit at the cowl top? This is providing the bellow was not changed.

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 04:33:43 AM »
The 143rd VIN assigned (7N100143) would have been on a late August or September car, not December; the partial above the blower motor is a better match to a December car. Also looks like a V8 engine pad but an L6 VIN tag. Hmmm.
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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 04:40:05 AM »
Good point, Tim. On another note I couldn't help but notice the white spray on the trim tag. I didn't realize it was done that early in the production run.
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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 05:05:52 AM »
Yup, cowl tag (12B) is not original to this VIN (123377N100143).

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 05:07:27 AM »
The car came with a 210hp 2bbl 327, powerglide, console no gauges, PS, PB, 12 bolt posi, std black int., white w/black vinyl top.

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 05:10:51 AM »
The partial VIN on the engine pad shown is a restamp.  Also, the VIN number is for a 6 cylinder Camaro, so the 327 is not original.

What is the rest of the engine assembly code?  "V12" is the only part visible.

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Re: One hidden vin different
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 05:23:49 AM »
VIN tag...


Cowl tag...


Engine pad stamp...


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