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Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 07, 2016, 06:04:37 PM »
Hello,

I'm getting ready to paint my BB O-1 1967 Indy Pace Car and would like some input. The issue I have is that my car is a 396 and not the 350 but has the exact same RPO build as the pace cars sent to the Indy Zone for IMS commitment activities. Its not a commitment car because it doesn't fit the criteria being a 396 and was produced the 1st week of April. The NCRS says the car was delivered to the Indy Zone and it has the vin delivery stamp etc. Basically the TT reads exactly like the actual two pace cars would have if the were not a refit from 4P L78 cars but factory built the way they paced the race. I plan to black out the tail pan and I'm sure I will get into lots of lengthy conversations about the combo of identifiers once I start showing. I just thought I would bounce it off you guys first.

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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 06:05:24 PM »
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 06:07:31 PM »
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 06:16:02 PM »
Does the car have the correct engine? Pictures?
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 02:48:50 AM »
It has a correct 396 engine but not the original engine. When found it had a swap to black interior. Blue behind the black paint on the dash. The body is now in primer and blocked and frame is done.
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 05:52:43 AM »
Not trying to bust your bubble, but are you sure it is a pace car? White with blue interior does not mean it is.
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 06:11:54 AM »
Doug,
It's real. :)
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 07:04:46 AM »
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 11:11:54 AM »
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 05:35:12 PM »

O-1 is special paint - white top. 

Are you under the assumption that the tail pan should be black?
If so what gives you that idea?
If not why would you paint the car in an incorrect configuration?

If showing it in stock classes you are going to encounter all types of push back and needless point deductions. 
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2016, 01:33:06 AM »
Yeah I'm not being very clear with my question, sorry. Most 67 396 cars with the exception of some dark colors have a black out tail pan cove. This is an 04A, O-1 (special paint) 396 pace car ordered by the Indy Zone for what purpose I don't know. Most recall that the two real  03C, O-1, (special paint) 396 pace cars have body color tail pans (white). However, show paint and tail pan cove to be painted body color (white) is part of the 98168 up fit performed in the first week or so of April and not when they were painted at the factory in 03C. So my question is my O-1 396 built in April and is special paint, could it be white? It seems they kind of had a theme going with the all white thing for the speedway IPC's and I can see how having 50+ all white and then a couple with black tails...IDK? 

I have no idea how many Indy Zone 396 pace cars are out there to compare to as I've not seen another and don't have access to any of the accumulated data bases out there. In Hooper and Crispino's Indy Pace Car Book on page 60 is this "The only unsolved mystery... was the rear panel of the big block cars flat black or white? Those built in April delete the black panel" I doubt I will ever really know because it's such a small sampling and that's why I'm going to play the safe bet and paint it black. I do know that C-1 396 IPC's have black tail pan coves.

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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2016, 01:43:20 AM »
And for you folks out there digging up your old Hooper and Crispino Indy Pace Car Book, take a look at page 35 and you will see a TT with exactly the same RPO's as mine. Also 04A and they are showing the body number as 193251 but its surely a typo and 103251 instead 2 body numbers off mine. It's still out there somewhere in someones garage  :)
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2016, 01:51:17 AM »
Check this website.  I don't think you want a black tail!

http://www.camaropacecars.com/67index.htm

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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2016, 02:01:56 AM »
Hi His67PC,

Your comment pushes the point I'm trying qualify here. Most pace car enthusiasts would expect an 0-1 IPC to be all white :) Everybody else really could care less lol. Enjoy your IPC!
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Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2016, 04:04:34 AM »
Ccargo, to ask the obvious question did you take out a tail light or scrape paint off to see what 's underneath. I do hope you get this figured out, this is the fun part of restoration.
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