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Hurst shifters
« on: January 13, 2016, 06:25:21 PM »
I'm sure this has been gone over, but a search didn't yield me anything useful.

I've found 2 hurst comp plus shifters in my stash, and I believe them both to be original OEM, they both have molded in rubber inserts for the shift rods, round push in handles etc....

I was hoping someone here could tell me how to read this date code and possibly there is a hint as to applicaton?

1st one...   890432M

2nd one...  1280D31D   

I think the second one is a late 68 application for the 69 model year?   Maybe the first one is a later 69 application?

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 06:39:38 PM »
1st one is August of 69. Second is December of 68. There should be 3138 or something similar on the body elsewhere. You'll have to get the number off the handle to dial it in to the application.
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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 07:16:41 PM »
Thanks,
 I haven't seen any other numbers on the shifter body other than a Pat. No.   I'll look closer and see if I can find something else.

Is there a day in those sets of numbers given to go with the month you provided?   

Here are the shifter handle numbers...

7433 and the other one is 5325 I believe,  a little hard to read the last digit, but pretty sure it's a 5.

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 07:52:25 PM »
The 5325 stick is for 69 Camaro. I believe the other is for 70-71 Camaro.

Post up some pics. There are some obvious differences with the "yokes" that the sticks go into.
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Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2016, 08:13:56 PM »
This might be another of the many differences with the "late" 69s that were built after the 70 model year started for other cars. But let's see pics of the yokes.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016, 09:45:10 PM »
Hang tight, I'll get some pics here shortly and play around again with photobucket and see if I can make it work.  Is there a certain angle you need the pics to show to help you determine what you want to see?  Down from the top, from the side???

I worded that first post wrong, One I have in a box, the other I believe is the original to my 12D 69 Z28.

The one loose in the box, the rods are on another trans I have in a different car so that kind of got separated (sort of, it's all here just scattered about, lol)

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 10:01:18 PM »
A close up of each side will work.
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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 02:00:08 AM »
I'll give this a shot.  I don't think I got a good enough close up of the late 69 shifter.




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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 05:37:49 AM »
Can't see the yoke on the second pic.

Can you see the numbers on the shifter rods? What are they?
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 12:46:15 PM »
I'll get the trans up on the table and get a better picture of the second one for you today.  I was trying to get a close up and ended up cutting off the picture, I suck at this, bear with me.

Yes there are numbers on the rods for this shifter, I believe they are the correct rods but I'll have a look at the numbers again, I can't remember them off the top of my head.

I have the rods for the other shifter as well, but they are currently under the nomad and a little more difficult at the moment to have a look at. 

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 07:18:28 PM »
Let me know if this is any better


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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 01:29:22 AM »
Well that looks like the normal 69 shifter yoke.

Please see what the numbers are on the rods when you have time.

Thanks!
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 02:57:31 AM »
Will do, I'll dig into it more tomorrow and post back. 

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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 01:00:57 PM »
Okay Bryan, sorry getting back into this later than promised.  I pulled all the rods off of that Dec 68 shifter and cannot see any numbers on any of the rods.  I can say that the 3-4 shift rod is silver cad plated while the 1-2 and reverse rods are black phosphate.  I've run across this with mixed coatings before so that's not unusual I don't think.
  I did grab the stick and take some shots.  I tried the part number twice both with and without a flash but it is camera shy apparently, I can't get it to photograph, lol.   The number on the stick is 5325.






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Re: Hurst shifters
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 01:11:30 PM »
I guess we can't nail down a "day of the month" with those numbers on the housing??

I do have another question.  I'm picky about mechanical things and even though this shifter is in great shape and has what I would call "normal" play in the rod linkage.  There is no visible wear on the shift arm holes in either the body or the trans side cover, and the rods show no signs of wear.   I'm pretty certain these factory hurst shifters never used bushings on the rods (I wish they did)
  I was playing with some of the "pit packs" I have hanging on the wall, and bushings fit onto the rods fine but do not fit into any of the shifter arms on either the trans or the shift housing.

So my question is, has anyone successfully drilled these arms to accept bushings?  Or is this considered a no-no among the restoration crowd?   I want to run this shifter on the car and keep the round stick appearance etc....but I don't want to devalue the original shifter by modifying anything that isn't acceptable.  I'm just picky about having a very tight feeling shifter.
   If I could find simple bronze sleeves thin enough to take up the slack without drilling that's what I would prefer to do but I think that would be difficult to find at best.  I would think this has been discussed before and others have found methods to tighten the rods within the shift arms?
Thoughts??