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1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« on: October 16, 2015, 12:57:32 AM »
I believe that my Nov 68 build SS350 was originally spoilerless. It has a spoiler now, and not the short one that would be found on an early build 69, so this is an obvious non-original addition. But I read in a prior post that the trunk lid would not stay open on an original spoilerless car when a spoiler was added, so it made me look closer at the torsion rods. They appear the same which supports spoilerless, but my lid does stay open. Agree this lid should not have a short spoiler? Honestly I've never climbed in a survivor trunk, so I don't know what I'm looking at.

So on to the real question, the fun details. I'm certain this is an original rear antenna car, and my non-original wide spoiler rubs it when I open the lid. Do any members have a late 69 (original wide spoiler) with rear antenna that rubs? Just my curiosity.

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2015, 01:06:38 AM »
Mine wasn't a D80 originally either, but the trunk works perfectly with the spoiler on it. No rear antenna. If I'm not mistaken, you could not order a rear antenna on a D80 optioned car.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 01:18:35 AM »
you could not order a rear antenna on a D80 optioned car.

That is correct.

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2015, 05:44:17 AM »
Thanks again. I don't like that spoiler anyway.   :D

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2015, 06:36:33 AM »
I have a short spoiler on my 02D built car but I don't hade the D80-option so I guess the spoiler was added later.....?
The trunk works perfectly and easily stays open with the spoiler on... :)
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2015, 12:20:01 PM »
I found this topic I need to remember to search by the UPC, sorry for the repeat discussion

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11422.0

Also this topic for those with rear mount antenna and dealer addition spoiler

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8911.msg62593#msg62593

Thanks - Andy

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2015, 12:46:47 PM »
AIM U73 states antenna should lean inboard approximately 4deg when viewed from the rear. Also it appears my antenna is mounted further aft than the AIM diagram, but I don't know how to read the position numbers in the AIM. How does this look compared to other 1969 U73 optioned member cars?

I imagine years of pushing the antenna to the side when opening the add-on D80 spoilered lid have put some bend into the antenna. But 4deg inboard is a drastic difference. Can I see someone's "unmangled" U73?

I did search, I didn't see any pics :)

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2015, 01:49:59 PM »
Thanks Dave. I guess I'm not very good at searching. My antenna is .5 inch aft of the one pictured, so 14.5 inch from the rear edge of quarter. Those pictures do show the antenna leaning inboard. I'll work on that whenever I remove the spoiler.

I have some questions about capacitors, but I better spend some more time searching first. :)

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2015, 01:52:25 PM »
Thanks Dave. I guess I'm not very good at searching. My antenna is .5 inch aft of the one pictured, so 14.5 inch from the rear edge of quarter. Those pictures do show the antenna leaning inboard. I'll work on that whenever I remove the spoiler.

I have some questions about capacitors, but I better spend some more time searching first. :)
No worries. There's been plenty of times searching has failed me... Glad to help.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2015, 02:58:17 PM »
All RF hinge pillars were pre-punched for an antenna lead. The hole was plugged on cars built without a radio or with a rear antenna.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2015, 03:56:26 PM »
Thanks William, I think I found it just below the upper door hinge. I tried to squeeze my iphone in there to get a few pics, added for future members. The help is much appreciated!

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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 04:46:19 PM »
Let me revive this thread since at least 2 of you are sporting short spoilers. My car is (also) an 02D, non-D80. But I like the cowl-hood / spoiler look, so I'm setting my car up that way. In imitation of the dealer-installed spoiler, I've painted the rear edge of the decklid. Question: I've got both types (length) of spoiler, so which was most-likely to have been installed?  What are your thoughts or opinions? Anybody?
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 07:42:32 PM »
I know of a couple of 02D COPO's with narrow spoilers from the factory, I also know of a bunch of Yenko's built in 01B January with Wide Spoilers...
The wide one will not be questioned, the narrow you may have some tell you it is wrong.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 08:39:40 PM »
It's not that the lid will stay open once you have added a spoiler-they all will stay fully open with help, but when you turn the key the added spoiler lids WILL NOT open. It will pop unlocked but will not open all they way by its self. Without a spoiler as soon as you turn the key the lid will pop AND open all the way on it's own.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2016, 10:39:17 PM »
I know of a couple of 02D COPO's with narrow spoilers from the factory, I also know of a bunch of Yenko's built in 01B January with Wide Spoilers...
The wide one will not be questioned, the narrow you may have some tell you it is wrong.
That has been my experience so far. The narrower spoiler "wasn't right" according to a couple people (one of which was a chop-shop that put Z28 emblems on every Camaro he touched... even 6-cylinders!), but then again, my flat hood and NO rear spoiler got called out even more as "not being a real Z"
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2016, 12:01:21 AM »

That has been my experience so far. The narrower spoiler "wasn't right" according to a couple people (one of which was a chop-shop that put Z28 emblems on every Camaro he touched... even 6-cylinders!), but then again, my flat hood and NO rear spoiler got called out even more as "not being a real Z"
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I love it when people call me out for my car not being a real Z just because of the flat hood, no spoiler and no stripes. It shows there ignorance.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2016, 12:17:30 AM »
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I love it when people call me out for my car not being a real Z just because of the flat hood, no spoiler and no stripes. It shows there ignorance.
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I admit I thought the same things at first, but I've learned a lot in 30+ years of ownership, and still learning
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2016, 01:35:56 PM »
Let me revive this thread since at least 2 of you are sporting short spoilers. My car is (also) an 02D, non-D80. But I like the cowl-hood / spoiler look, so I'm setting my car up that way. In imitation of the dealer-installed spoiler, I've painted the rear edge of the decklid. Question: I've got both types (length) of spoiler, so which was most-likely to have been installed?  What are your thoughts or opinions? Anybody?

I have seen the short spoiler on a couple cars as late as 3B, but the majority are long spoiler. My recommendation would be go with the long spoiler.
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2016, 04:05:10 PM »
Thanks for the input, guys, and sorry if I steered this thread away from it's original purpose. I'll line the walls of my "man closet" with my spare parts
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Re: 1969 rear antenna and spoiler - here's the rub...
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2016, 09:08:59 PM »
My 02A car did not come with a spoiler but has one on it now and I put a power antenna on .
I lower the antenna when I get out of the car in case I need to open the trunk.
The power antenna also works great when I put the car cover on ,no need for a hole in the cover.

 

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