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jvc7450

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Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« on: March 05, 2015, 10:59:14 PM »
Hi II am new to this forum, Thanks for having me!!  I have just purchased a 69 Z28  all documentation says it is real, but how do I really know??   My car was made the first week in January 1969 in LA.  Any help would be appreciated!

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 11:03:05 PM »
You could start by posting photos of the documentation you have.  Experts on this site can tell if it is real.

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 11:19:41 PM »
Show lots of pictures. You came to the right place. The best and most knowledgeable first gen Camaro experts in the land are here. They will know!
Good luck and welcome!

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 12:07:49 AM »
Thanks guys!!  I just brought it up from Florida and I hve put it in storage since we still have snow on the ground here in Wisconsin. I will post some pics I have.  Would a vin # help??

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 12:27:31 AM »
Ahem, is someone standing on a rug with their pants down in the first pic? (reflection above marker light).
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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 12:43:33 AM »
Being an LA car, pictures of your engine pad stamp and as Paul mentioned, pictures of your documents are the best way to verify it as an original Z.
You can compare your VIN to trim tag build date here.
http://camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany

You can also learn how to verify you hidden VIN as well as decode your trim tag interior and exterior colors here.
http://camaros.org/numbers.shtml#PartialVIN

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 05:04:44 AM »
Don't be afraid of posting here - the extreme and vast majority of people that watch and comment on this site are here to help, and not to disparage your car. I've visited other sites over the years where that's not always the case. You'll get what you look and ask about a very high percentage of the time, with fair and honest opinions from just about everyone. I've owned a Z for a long time, and I still learn something about it constantly from the topics and postings here. That's what this forum is known for, in my opinion (for what it's worth).

You've got enough '69 Z owners, experts and aficionados represented here to dissect any feature on the car, start to finish. That being said, when you post your documentation please remember that you'll get a pretty firm opinion of validity, so be prepared for it.

Welcome to the CRG - post away !

P.S. Good looking car - really like the color combo -   
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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 06:20:05 AM »
Ahem, is someone standing on a rug with their pants down in the first pic? (reflection above marker light).

Yes don't be afraid to post here, not everyone here looks for exposed people in reflections of the cars....  :D

(Bentley if that is what caught your attention in the first pic, you may need to get out more...j/k)

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 06:25:08 AM »
Seriously though, your pics look good. Yes a vin will help, as well as a pic of the firewall tag, and a pic of the DZ motor stamp, and, as mentioned before, any docs you might have received with the car.
 There are a couple small things that could be changed (to be more factory correct), but all in all the car looks real nice so far. ;D

(we all love pictures, so keep them coming)
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2015, 11:14:00 AM »
I would not have noticed the reflection myself. Good looking car
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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2015, 01:46:31 PM »
Thanks so much guys! Very much appreciate all the help! Also another CRG member does not live to far from me, would like to come see the car. We are excited to meet him.  This is a numbers matching car.  vin is  124379L514855. Built in Los Angeles,  14,855th car built that year.  This car was built the first week of January and the motor was built the 3rd week.
Engine block # 3956618 original DZ 302 block, balanced and bluprinted.  Intake manifold#  3932472 original snowflake manifold.
carbureter # 3923289-dz (original 4 bbl holley for a 69 z -28
cylinder Heads # 3927186 2.02/1.60 double hump correct for z-28
Transmission muncie M-21 close ratio 4 speed with correct hurst shutter
12 bolt rear with 3.73 positraction
93,604 documented miles
This is what I know.  The car came with a big box of documents and 60  pictures of all numbers and speedo. I am pretty sure this is the real deal. 

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2015, 01:58:13 PM »
"This car was built the first week of January and the motor was built the 3rd week."

That raises a flag / question. It should be the other way around. The engine cast and assembly date should be before the car build date, not after.

Got any pictures of that engine pad stamp?

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2015, 04:08:31 PM »

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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2015, 04:23:04 PM »
Post a picture of the numbers and letters stamped in front of the passenger side cylinder head when you have time.  You might need to remove the alternator to get a good pic.
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Re: Help me find out if my 1969 Z 28 is real
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2015, 06:49:02 PM »
Based on a December 31 1968 final LA VIN L513817, a January 31 1969 final LA VIN L520247 and 22 working days, this car was built the 3-4 working days into January 1969; January 6-7...early second week.

I look forward to seeing stamps & casting dates...

Paul
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