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z28z11

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2014, 06:18:30 PM »
I've attached a pic of the carb and stamped code.  Buyer got back to me about the distributor.  He said that the # is 1111467, which would make it the correct distributor for the engine.

Not trying to nitpick; carb center section is good, but the front bowl is not right (no bowl vent for the Z's, only L78's), plus the dashpot is later (vacuum tube is curved on originals). Probably assembled from parts.

Check the date on the 467 distributor - should be pretty close to the build if it's an original (finding one date coded correctly is not an easy task).

Point being: Everyone mentioned this before - don't take it for granted that correctly coded parts that are with the car guarantee originality. I know that's kind of redundant, but '68's are easy to pass off as originals to the unsuspecting and the enthusiastic would-be buyer. Keep your caution intact -

Regards.
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2014, 06:43:30 PM »
Also, the power brake booster hose bracket is missing (see your recent carburetor picture).  This bracket was necessary on all first generation Z/28s.

Paul 

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2014, 09:50:52 PM »
Where is the date code on the distributor?

BULLITT65

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2014, 10:15:11 PM »
right past the part number.  So "8 D 18" would be 8 =year 1968, D would be April, 18 would be day of the month.  This is just a random example, they did some of them in batches. Jan could probably post a pic of his original.
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2014, 10:23:16 PM »
Here's a '69 L-78.
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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2014, 12:59:13 AM »
Where is the date code on the distributor?
Be careful on the date code as there are a flotilla of re-stamp distributors. My build thread has a lot information concerning 68Z's.  Like Charlie, it seems to have a lot going for it if the floor boards, bottom of doors, etc. are solid as a rock.
Love those 68Z's!
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2014, 11:19:17 PM »
On my way back fron NC.   The car was an honest, unrestored car with matchi g engine
And tranny numbers.  Rear end code was for March 14 or 15, so that appeqrs to be original too.
Floors and rockers were solid except for the small area shown.  Rear quarters bave some bondo
Behind the wheels but nothing horrible.  Inners need some repair at the edges  but are not bad.
trunk is rock solid. Bottoms of fenders are fine.  Some surface rust on subframe, no rot  
cracking shown in rear quarters is paint.  Comfirmed presence of bondo w magnet.
  Interior is original with some wear.  Smells musty, very dusty.   Dash pad is shot.  Original shifter.  Driveable as is.  84k mi, appears to be original.
Got him to move a little on price but not as much as hoped.

Seriously considering pulling the trigger.   Goi g to sleep on.it

BULLITT65

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2014, 11:27:03 PM »
Good job on seeing it first hand. I hope you guys aren't to far apart on price, and can agree on a number.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2014, 01:09:56 AM »
Chicks build is for sure your best reference right now. Also take a look at mine, as it is numbers matching from the air cleaner wing nut to the 5 matching wheels. It is an O5E build. Here is the link. ... Danny

    http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12453.0


           

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2014, 02:29:45 AM »
Finally home.  Long day.  CT to NC back to CT.  A few additional comments about the car:

Overall appearance is decent, but not great.  Paint is faded and dull.
In addition to the correct production code and partial VIN, the engine also has the correct casting #, 3914678
Owner said that the car does have the correct DF wheels, although the spare is a 14" rim.
Jack is present, although I didn't check for originality
Radiator is not original - it is a 21" core, but it has outlets for cooling lines.  Not surprising given the age of the car.
Rear leafs have 4 leafs, not 5.  From what I understand, that is correct for a Z28(?).
Valve covers ARE original, according to the owner, they were just painted...why he painted chrome I can't say, but he did point to a spot where they were peeling, and yes, it did appear to have chrome under the paint.
Alternator does not appear to be original - # on it is 1100834
Brake pedal DOES have the correct "disc brake" medallion on it
The car DOES have bumper guards
Couldn't find a code on the MC - booster shows evidence of peeling paint for a brake fluid leak, so I'm certain it's been replaced
Rear end code is BW0314G (I THINK it was a 14) with an "E" underneath that - confirms that the rear end was built approx. 2 weeks before the car's production date, and that the car originally had a 4.56 rear end, which is what the owner said.  Now has 3.73s
I would tend to believe that the rear end is original...given that the rear was a 4.56, I'm sure that they used fewer of them, so it was probably built and the sat on a rack for a few weeks because of lower demand.
As far as I could tell (reading with a mirror), the distributor DOES have the correct code 1111467, although I couldn't see that date code
Driver's side seat has a small tear on the bottom cushion, pass side and rear seat are intact and in decent shape.  Carpet is decent, a bit faded, headliner is intact.
Dash is uncut, and has a (according to the owner) a non-original but correct GM am/fm radio
Door panels are presentable, rear panels appear to be a bit bowed, as if the back side was exposed to moisture
The front lower panel of the wheel wells, where the rocker drain plug is located, is solid on both sides.

Last question - from what I understand, the carb is supposed to be a mechanical secondary card, correct?  I recall seeing a vacuum diaphragm, which shouldn't be there...but then again, I didn't closely check out the carb.

Let's see how I feel about it tomorrow morning.

Chris
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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2014, 02:38:35 AM »
How solid (rust) is the car?

Paul

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2014, 02:44:37 AM »
Nice detailed description Chris. Does sound like a special car. Yes on the four leaf springs on 68 Z's. Good luck whichever way you go.

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2014, 02:52:14 AM »
Should be vacuum secondary.

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2014, 03:05:51 AM »
Paul -

Solid, but not perfect.  Like I mentioned, bondo behind the rear wheels, inner rear fender lips have some rot where they join the lip of the rear quarter, but only 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch, basically the edge.  Shock supports are rock solid, as is the trunk and floor.  No rust under the fenders that I could see, some light surface rust on the underside of the rear subframe, but again, no holes or even flaking.  Doors appeared to be solid along the bottoms, rockers passed the magnet test, didn't appear to have any bondo in them.

The spare tire direction sticker was peeled off, and I could see the original teal color.  Unique color...I like it.

Chris

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Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2014, 03:15:46 AM »
carb should be vacuum secondary. Big deal with the z's are engine-trans-rear end. BORN with. Sounds like you have quite a bit of original sheet metal that is repairable. Glass date codes--carpet ? Seat belts ?   If you are serious about this car, shoot me an email and I'll send you the dates on a Z that ran the line a few weeks after yours. Chick is a wonderful source also. As Danny, who just purchased one. Well...anyone here owning a 68 Z are partial to them. ( those 69 Hugger Orange  guys are a motely crew ,stay away...LOL !)
68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..