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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #285 on: September 30, 2014, 02:32:23 AM »
I'll see if I can't get better pics tomorrow and post.   I'll try to include the measurement widths of the white stripe and width between each rib.  But for now, I have this pic which is also the same from post #259.  It's a smooth hose with only 3 raised ribs.  If you look toward the bottom of the hose you can see the beginning of the white stripe.  It's only about 90 degrees off from the ribs or even a little less than 90.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #286 on: September 30, 2014, 02:38:43 AM »
Original Head Bolts with head markings "A", "M" and "C"
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #287 on: September 30, 2014, 02:43:59 AM »
The rubber lines have different # of ribs to indicate which supplier.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #288 on: September 30, 2014, 04:31:04 AM »
The rubber lines have different # of ribs to indicate which supplier.
Kurt,

 That makes sense about the number of lines. Probably the same for the windshield washer hoses too?
IYO, do you think the 3 line and 7 line could have co-existed in the same model year? Also, I would think different suppliers between NOR and LOS?

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #289 on: September 30, 2014, 06:28:23 PM »
Oh yeah. Several different lines in different plants. They were a true commodity.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #290 on: September 30, 2014, 08:06:41 PM »
Reference to the Vac Advance hose:

Ok, interesting enough... I discovered something else.  Mine actually has 4 ribs in total.  3 ribs together, then a white stripe 90 degrees away, then 1 more rib at another 90 degrees.

The first pic shows the 3 ribs and the white stripe to the right.. (2nd pic) shows the bottom of the hose which has 1 rib.  Could this still be original ?
Darrell

'69 Z/28 03B NOR X77 Dusk Blue, white top, flat hood, all born w/parts and drive train.  Under restoration
'69 Firebird, Veredoro green, blk top, deluxe int, all original, 350 auto

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #291 on: September 30, 2014, 08:12:51 PM »
The Vac Advance hose is 3/8 Dia. with the stripe being 1/8 wide (pic 1)

The 3 ribs are about 3/32 apart from one another (pic 2) and the 3 ribs are about 3/32 from the white stripe as well  (pic 3)

(pic 4)  Just the bottom of the hose showing the 1 rib

Hope this helps   :)
Darrell

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #292 on: September 30, 2014, 08:19:53 PM »
A lot of discussion for something so small.... :D

bet the line workers would get a kick out of pondering something so arbitrary as how many ribs on a rubber hose. But I am right there with you wanting to find out... ;D
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« Reply #293 on: September 30, 2014, 08:33:15 PM »
A lot of discussion for something so small.... :D

bet the line workers would get a kick out of pondering something so arbitrary as how many ribs on a rubber hose. But I am right there with you wanting to find out... ;D
LOL.. Yeah you just know the lineworker was chomping on an apple and telling his co-worker..."watch this, in 45 yrs from now they'll be baffled about these ribbed hoses" !
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #294 on: October 04, 2014, 03:11:10 AM »
The original Brake Booster Hose Bracket
Darrell, do you see any GM part number like this stamped on your brake booster hose? I just noticed this one on mine.  My car has never been restored, so if this hose is not the original it was a service replacment many years ago. Anyone know if it is the original or not?
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #295 on: October 04, 2014, 01:58:00 PM »
The original Brake Booster Hose Bracket
Darrell, do you see any GM part number like this stamped on your brake booster hose? I just noticed this one on mine.  My car has never been restored, so if this hose is not the original it was a service replacment many years ago. Anyone know if it is the original or not?

That's not a part number - it's a GM Engineering specification number for rubber hose; describes type of rubber, reinforcing layers, burst/collapse limits, test procedures, etc. Reference to that spec (GM 6188-M) will be found on the booster hose part drawing.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #296 on: October 04, 2014, 05:34:57 PM »
Thank you for the clarification on the number John!
Amazing knowledge here at CRG!
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #297 on: October 04, 2014, 11:25:49 PM »
Original '69 Side Marker Lights
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« Reply #298 on: October 05, 2014, 02:38:48 PM »
The original Brake Booster Hose Bracket
Darrell, do you see any GM part number like this stamped on your brake booster hose? I just noticed this one on mine.  My car has never been restored, so if this hose is not the original it was a service replacment many years ago. Anyone know if it is the original or not?
The original Brake Booster Hose Bracket
Darrell, do you see any GM part number like this stamped on your brake booster hose? I just noticed this one on mine.  My car has never been restored, so if this hose is not the original it was a service replacment many years ago. Anyone know if it is the original or not?
Hey Len,   Just checked the brake booster vac hose and mine has no markings.  It's just solid black.  So that brings up another question.  Has mine been replaced during the 11 yrs on the road before being stowed away or could it of got a hose without any markings ?  That's an odd hose to be replacing since it's just a vacuum hose and not under pressure. Hmmmmmm !
Darrell

'69 Z/28 03B NOR X77 Dusk Blue, white top, flat hood, all born w/parts and drive train.  Under restoration
'69 Firebird, Veredoro green, blk top, deluxe int, all original, 350 auto

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« Reply #299 on: October 05, 2014, 02:59:05 PM »
Hey guys/gals,     Just throwing this out there.  I have 4 of my original YH dated rims and a FW code as my spare.  The previous owner has always had the FW as the spare and the original YH was lost somewhere along the way like most.  I guess I'm lucky to have the 4.

Anyway, I did find a date correct YH with the same date as my 2-26 rim.  It's on ebay at this present time.  I got the guy down to $300 (wanted $400).  What's your thoughts..is it worth dropping the 3 beans to have all 5 or save the $ and keep the FW as the spare.  I'm looking at the overall picture when the car is completed.  Or is that particular date easy to find as I may run across another sometime at a later date for less dough ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131301754023?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Penny for your thoughts..Thanks
Darrell

'69 Z/28 03B NOR X77 Dusk Blue, white top, flat hood, all born w/parts and drive train.  Under restoration
'69 Firebird, Veredoro green, blk top, deluxe int, all original, 350 auto