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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #180 on: September 01, 2014, 02:49:55 AM »
Was there a console with gauges? If so what oil line fitting set up is installed? Seems to be some speculation on what is actually correct.
It's a console with gauges.   I'll have to check out the bottom of the gauges Tuesday.  That will be my first chance to look and report back  :)


What fitting is installed on the back of the engine block Darrell? 
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #181 on: September 01, 2014, 03:01:34 AM »
Was there a console with gauges? If so what oil line fitting set up is installed? Seems to be some speculation on what is actually correct.
It's a console with gauges.   I'll have to check out the bottom of the gauges Tuesday.  That will be my first chance to look and report back  :)


What fitting is installed on the back of the engine block Darrell? 
Thanks  Gary,  I should of asked that.  I was gonna take a pic of the block and the gauges.  Wasn't sure what connections you were talking about.  Check back Tuesday afternoon if you can.  Unfortunately the car and parts are sitting at a warehouse and I'm working tomorrow  :( and will be there Tues.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #182 on: September 01, 2014, 04:16:40 AM »
Original Washer Jar, Cap and Hose (with ridges along the hose)
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #183 on: September 01, 2014, 11:45:36 PM »
Original Cam cast #3849347,  part #3849346

Couple of questions:  
1)  Couldn't find a part number stamped anywhere, is there and did I overlook it ?  
2)  Like the crank, a yellow paint band brushed around it, why did GM do this ?
3)  The 3 bolts marked "N" on the heads look original.  I know GM used several suppliers, so is there a list of all possible bolts GM used during assembly on all parts ?
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #184 on: September 02, 2014, 10:01:32 AM »
Just returned from an overseas trip and have enjoyed reading this entire thread - what a great find Darrell! Please keep the detailed pictures coming.
Tim - 04A VN '69 z/28 69-69 715 ex-E/MP

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #185 on: September 02, 2014, 12:44:40 PM »
Very cool find,Darrel! Beautiful color combination. Nice job documenting it with the pictures, too.

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #186 on: September 02, 2014, 02:22:38 PM »
Original Cam cast #3849347,  part #3849346

Couple of questions: 
1)  Couldn't find a part number stamped anywhere, is there and did I overlook it ?   
2)  Like the crank, a yellow paint band brushed around it, why did GM do this ?
3)  The 3 bolts marked "N" on the heads look original.  I know GM used several suppliers, so is there a list of all possible bolts GM used during assembly on all parts ?

1. You won't find a part number - only the core casting number (which was unique to each Chevy camshaft, to minimize required machining).

2. Painted band was for quick in-process identification (vs. reading the casting number).

3. Various Corvette publications and NCRS Judging Guides call out the most common expected headmarks to be seen on each fastener application. For Camaros, do you have Jerry MacNeish's book?
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #187 on: September 02, 2014, 03:59:40 PM »
Original Cam cast #3849347,  part #3849346

Couple of questions: 
1)  Couldn't find a part number stamped anywhere, is there and did I overlook it ?   
2)  Like the crank, a yellow paint band brushed around it, why did GM do this ?
3)  The 3 bolts marked "N" on the heads look original.  I know GM used several suppliers, so is there a list of all possible bolts GM used during assembly on all parts ?

1. You won't find a part number - only the core casting number (which was unique to each Chevy camshaft, to minimize required machining).

2. Painted band was for quick in-process identification (vs. reading the casting number).

3. Various Corvette publications and NCRS Judging Guides call out the most common expected headmarks to be seen on each fastener application. For Camaros, do you have Jerry MacNeish's book?
I just received Jerry's Definitive 4th edition a few days ago and just started reading.  Great info and thanks, I'll check it out.
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #188 on: September 02, 2014, 09:33:07 PM »
Original Heater Core  "Harrison"  dated  69C  ('69 March)  Still in pretty good condition   :)
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #189 on: September 02, 2014, 10:29:02 PM »
Ok.. Back to the block, Sorry guys for jumping around.  Some MUCH better picks of the DZ stamp and other areas.  Also some more of the crazy blue paint.  That's some strong a$$ adhesive in the paint.. all those years and to never peal off and get mixed into the oil.  WOW !   
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #190 on: September 02, 2014, 10:51:54 PM »
And some more blue paint.  On both ends.  I imagine John Z could answer once again.. why the blue ?   So assembly line workers knew what was coming down the line ?  Did certain blocks get certain colors.. 302 = blue,  396 another, 307 another and so forth ?
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #191 on: September 03, 2014, 12:06:54 AM »
I thought I could punch it up some, but would need the original.... Looks good, better to have a shot a little ways back to see factory broaching etc. THEN a super close up.. Anyway, for what it's worth.. Danny

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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #192 on: September 03, 2014, 12:13:00 AM »
Was there a console with gauges? If so what oil line fitting set up is installed? Seems to be some speculation on what is actually correct.
It's a console with gauges.   I'll have to check out the bottom of the gauges Tuesday.  That will be my first chance to look and report back  :)
Hey Gary,  unfortunately the fitting was already removed. Bummer.  Exactly what should it look like for my future reference

Thanks


What fitting is installed on the back of the engine block Darrell? 
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #193 on: September 03, 2014, 01:16:51 AM »
Darrell,
Nice find and mostly all original to boot, congrats. Can you please post a couple detailed pics of the master cylinder lid / wording. Dave
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Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« Reply #194 on: September 03, 2014, 02:29:31 AM »
Dave, here is a thread from a few months ago about correct master cylinder lids with pics and wording. Jerry M. told me that mine is the correct factory lid for my car and it matches Gary's (69Z28-RS) and is exactly like the one in his picture. Hopefully Darrell also has his which will be nice to compare with.
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http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12201.0
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