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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2014, 12:17:51 PM »
1 &2) Yes trim & bolts need to be removed and the line will almost split the spear bracket screw holes.

3) Depends.  If the car was from NOR then will probably will not see as much overspray on the underside of the car due to it being just a few feet off the ground and truthfully the fenders would come off as well to do the spray on the lower cowl or tulip panel area as seen in James' photo.

    If it was built in LOS then you would have more (or should I say potentially see more) overspray due to it being held from an overhead conveyor system.

Also remember that the subframe, brake lines, etc would not have been there when this was painted.  If I were doing this I would tape off on the inside weld seam lip and spray that area.  Removing fenders to get that area covered would be up to the individual.


Someone please correct me if I am wrong.  :)
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2014, 12:49:37 PM »
3) As I understand, facing the side of the car, the black was sprayed perpendicular to the body side. This would mean the part of the rocker that turns under (faces the ground) did not get directly painted, just overspray. Will point out that Norwood blackout done by Fisher, so fenders were not on the car and posted and known examples show a masked line on lower cowl usually tappering upward toward front of cowl. Not imperative in resto, but exact.
My car as an example of masked front cowl (ignore the rust and flaws).
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2014, 03:10:49 PM »
Remember that the rocker panel was sprayed black in the Fisher Body main Paint Shop, when the body was just a shell, prior to entering the Fisher Body Trim Shop. The matching black on the bottom of the front fender was sprayed in the Chevrolet front sheet metal Paint Shop on their side of the plant, hours before the fender was installed on the car.
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2014, 03:21:13 AM »
How did that process differ at Van Nuys John?
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2014, 02:38:09 PM »
How did that process differ at Van Nuys John?

Van Nuys had converted from Fisher/Chevrolet to GMAD the previous year, and had consolidated the Paint Shop (eliminated the Chevy paint shop); the front sheet metal previously painted separately by Chevrolet was now mounted on conveyor bucks about five feet ahead of the body shell. The black rocker and fender areas were masked and sprayed at the same time, but it was many hours later before the fender was installed on the body.
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2014, 10:39:59 PM »
Thanks John
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2014, 02:14:19 PM »






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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2014, 03:42:09 PM »
Those are GREAT pictures!
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:51 PM »
I don't know how the rocker was painted as well as that one was, without getting any black on the vertical seam rib below it..  unless a mask was used?
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2014, 10:21:16 PM »
Holy Cow; I'm more confused now then when we started. Are they all correct? I was going to do this project myself; not
now. Will hand this job off to the pros in the painting dept. Don't know which pattern I'll do. Larry ???
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2014, 12:41:18 AM »
Van Nuys was different then Norwood. They must have used something, because the bottom just got body overspray. Original paint car.







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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2014, 08:41:52 AM »
Oaklyss, in that last picture, is the horizontal area on the underside of the rocker bare metal? Can't tell, could be the flash effect, but it looks like there isn't even primer on there.
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2014, 10:42:25 AM »
Good point is they were not perfect. Above my fuel tank was basically bare metal, "mist" of primer. Good representation Oaklyss. I've posted before ,ironically, more time was involved trying to replicate "factory" vs. "over restored"  in mine anyways.

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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2014, 11:40:08 AM »
Oaklyss, in that last picture, is the horizontal area on the underside of the rocker bare metal? Can't tell, could be the flash effect, but it looks like there isn't even primer on there.

I think you are getting the flash along with the orange reflecting on the black giving it that bare metal look.  You can see the line where the black ends (or the bare metal looking area) and orange begins.
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Re: Need help/picture to correct my 69 Z28 write up from Jerry MacNeish.
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2014, 11:59:12 AM »
Oaklyss, in that last picture, is the horizontal area on the underside of the rocker bare metal? Can't tell, could be the flash effect, but it looks like there isn't even primer on there.

I think you are getting the flash along with the orange reflecting on the black giving it that bare metal look.  You can see the line where the black ends (or the bare metal looking area) and orange begins.
Yes but I asked the question because if you look at picture 1 in reply # 21, it looks similar, but without so much possible H.O. reflection.....
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