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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2014, 12:44:09 PM »

Picture of trim ring card
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2014, 02:38:58 PM »

I just learned that they have a reproduction (licensed) copy of that sheet available for around $10...  Smiley

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1968-1969-CHEVROLET-CORVETTE-WHEEL-TRIM-RING-INSTRUCTIONS-SHEET-CARD-TAG-/140730686674

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014, 02:55:09 PM »

I found my 01C X77 in '72, bought it in '73. Trim rings were original to the car as far as I could tell - fingers on all, not 4 clip.

When I parked it on the street at school, I used to pull the rings and derbys, and store in the trunk to keep 'em from getting gone. I got pretty good at pulling them off without a screwdriver/lug wrench, but boy, did they ever scratch up the YH's. 4 clips would have probably been better ?


I am surprised the reason for switching was the 4 clip coming off. They do not pop off all that easy, the finger design come off a lot easier for me. Plus when balancing the wheels you have to make sure the weight doesn't get put on where a clip goes.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2014, 03:36:05 PM »

Mine are sort of a PIA to get off ,4 clip design obviously, and original to the car.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2014, 06:48:57 PM »

The printed date on that paper is 9-23-66 and can be found at all the Corvette places. Does anyone have one with a later date like 1969.

Mike
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2014, 12:09:26 AM »

The printed date on that paper is 9-23-66 and can be found at all the Corvette places. Does anyone have one with a later date like 1969.

Mike

I think Mine is dated 11/68 ?, it is GM original , it was with the car when I bought it in 1974, along with the Pop, battery warranty card, visor sleeve , owners manual, and a lot of other documentation including parts bills etc.
It is not a reproduction and I see no reason to doubt it didn't come with the car.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM »

rszmjt,
I was not questioning the originality of your instruction sheet; I was noting the printed date on the ebay listing that 69Z28-RS posted. If there are others that have your date or other later printed sheets, I would say that Chevy did put the 4 clip designs on the early 69 Z/28ís and maybe we could use this information to help track a date change to the second design. Especially if someone has a later sheet showing the internal fingers.

There have been numerous posts about trim rings recently, with different people offering information about what trim rings are on their cars. I will see if I can correlate this information similar to the gas tank codes and post what I find. If anyone else has done this already feel free to post.

Mike
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2014, 03:02:22 PM »

good idea , thanks Mike
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2014, 12:37:58 PM »

I have the original build sheet and no where does it show what trim rings went on the car unfortunately, and I agree without a doubt that a manual should be issued and sold to the public.  I will tell you that I have received more than 1 answer on numerous parts from different judges at the same show, before they agreed on the correct part.  It is a pretty high expense to transport a car, stay at a hotel, food ect to go to the Nationals so they should design a fact book.  The Camaro Nationals is suppose to be the most prestigious Camaro show in the country and the Legends Judging the most strict so I am all for a book.

At this point I am staying with the finger clips because that is what I was told and I will post the results in June!

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2014, 07:12:25 PM »

My 5A Norwood Z had the original YH wheels in the front and Corvette 8" wheels in the back when I bought it in 1979. The replacement trim rings from GM that I put on the rear in the early 80's were the finger type. I am going to the Legends Judging with the 4 clips. We will have to see how this plays out.

Mike
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2014, 07:33:34 PM »

Please keep us updated on both cars and what the "judges"  say
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
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Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2014, 03:03:26 AM »

Interesting to note my GM Camaro parts book dated Aug/74 shows only 1 trim ring for 1969 Z28 - # 3901708. Then a later issue GM Camaro parts Book dated Sept/75 shows - # 9796696. No trim ring attaching style notes are included in either parts book description.

My GM Chevelle Parts Book dated Apr/76 shows the  # 3901708 trim ring as - 2&1/2" wide -Attaches with 4 clips, fitting 74-76. It then also shows # 9796696 as a supplemented part number for this ring.

Then it shows # 9796696 fitting 70-73 Monte Carlo and it says - Approx 2&1/2" Wide - Attaches with 4 Clips.

I do know that later issue # 9796696 trim rings had the serrated teeth or fingers and were still available from GM I think until approx. 2007? There is also 2 versions of this ring, early issue had Black Serrations and the later issue had Silver Serrations. I have a NOS set of the # 9796696 and the boxes are dated Mar/2000 and they have the silver serrations.

My personal opinion is that the # 3901708 - 4 clip style trim rings were the original line installed trim ring on the Z28, and the later issue # 9796696 trim ring with the serrations was a mid 70,s service trim ring, and was also used by the dealer to replace existing 4 clip trim rings after that part number # 3901708 was superceded to # 9796696.

Jerrys Book only mentions that 2 styles of trim rings were used.  No Offence meant but I honestly don't see how  a legends judge could comment with certainty that in or around Feb 1969 they went to the fingers all the way around the ring to stop the 4 clip design falling off, when the Early dated 1974 GM Camaro and Chevelle parts Book do not show the Serrated type trim ring.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2014, 07:57:46 AM »


At this point I am staying with the finger clips because that is what I was told and I will post the results in June!



Your situation might be different than others as it seems you have been "legends certified" and your going back to improve upon your score which I believe in the past they only verify or check the issues that were found wrong during the first go around. Seems to me your in a catch 22 as the easiest would be just change trim rings and bingo you get the points that were deducted the first go around.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2014, 10:04:22 AM »

Interesting to note my GM Camaro parts book dated Aug/74 shows only 1 trim ring for 1969 Z28 - # 3901708. Then a later issue GM Camaro parts Book dated Sept/75 shows - # 9796696. No trim ring attaching style notes are included in either parts book description.

My GM Chevelle Parts Book dated Apr/76 shows the  # 3901708 trim ring as - 2&1/2" wide -Attaches with 4 clips, fitting 74-76. It then also shows # 9796696 as a supplemented part number for this ring.

Then it shows # 9796696 fitting 70-73 Monte Carlo and it says - Approx 2&1/2" Wide - Attaches with 4 Clips.

I do know that later issue # 9796696 trim rings had the serrated teeth or fingers and were still available from GM I think until approx. 2007? There is also 2 versions of this ring, early issue had Black Serrations and the later issue had Silver Serrations. I have a NOS set of the # 9796696 and the boxes are dated Mar/2000 and they have the silver serrations.

My personal opinion is that the # 3901708 - 4 clip style trim rings were the original line installed trim ring on the Z28, and the later issue # 9796696 trim ring with the serrations was a mid 70,s service trim ring, and was also used by the dealer to replace existing 4 clip trim rings after that part number # 3901708 was superceded to # 9796696.

Jerrys Book only mentions that 2 styles of trim rings were used.  No Offence meant but I honestly don't see how  a legends judge could comment with certainty that in or around Feb 1969 they went to the fingers all the way around the ring to stop the 4 clip design falling off, when the Early dated 1974 GM Camaro and Chevelle parts Book do not show the Serrated type trim ring.

i'm in 100% agreement with rszmjt (and the parts books) on this... as those *documented* facts match my memory as well.
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60 Corvette white/red, 72 Corvette coupe (2), 
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2014, 11:22:08 AM »

Check this out, some of the pictures are missing, but the story is there.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=112918&highlight=TRIM+RING
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