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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2014, 10:33:06 PM »

Wow that had to hurt, but I'm sure you'll work it out. I know hind sight is 20/20 but maybe a magnet would have helped? "TRUST BUT VERIFY"
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2014, 01:50:50 AM »

Wow. Perhaps this is a crazy question, but you said you bought a rust free car. Was it advertised as such. If so I would think that you would have a case on your hands.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2014, 02:30:41 AM »

Wow. Perhaps this is a crazy question, but you said you bought a rust free car. Was it advertised as such. If so I would think that you would have a case on your hands.

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 04:29:42 AM »

Kerr, I admire you for persevering with this build, you certainly seem to have kept your humor despite how the car turned out to be....... hang in there, the good folks here will be able to offer advice and encouragement. Plenty of good threads over at Team Camaro too, for motivation and neat ideas! Good luck
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 07:22:39 AM »

There is often no recourse if a car is found to be rotten. No rust is wide open to interpretation. If there is no visible rot then sellers will state rust free. A buyer uneducated in bodywork who becomes disappointed after a teardown is common. Sometimes a shiny paint job hides butcher work and they fall for that. The hack job on those quarter skins is no surprise. Many people think their backyard butcher repairs are good enough. They are clueless in the trade, have no equipment or money and want to patch a POS any way possible to just drive the car. Cars like this were common.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »

Kerr, have hope.  I don't think that car is that bad.  You're pissed and rightly so that someone sold you this car as "rust free".  I'm giving the benefit of a doubt that the guy may not have known about the repairs.  You wouldn't have known except for stripping it down and you will feel good about knowing that your car looks good and was done right when you finish.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2014, 06:53:05 PM »

You wouldn't have known except for stripping it down
May not have realized the full extent of issues, but have another look at the front of the roof above the windshield trim in picture #1 of this thread for a hint of what lay beneath.....
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2014, 06:53:57 PM »

I honestly hope this works out for you and if you do proceed place the build on team Camaro under "builds". Good luck to you!
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2014, 12:02:46 AM »

I showed the pics to a very good friend of mine that completely rebodied a '67 vert over the last couple of years, mostly because he couldn't bring himself to crush it. It was an original 6 cylinder car, if I remember, and he ended up replacing nearly every piece of metal on the car with the exception of the cowl panel and firewall (trim tag, hidden VIN area, door plate area) that represented the originality of the car. What an absolute hell he put himself through, for the sake of saving a Camaro.

His first advice to you - junk it. He corrected himself a little, mainly because of the project status you mentioned with your son; he also said having done this once, he would never do it again under any circumstances.

The upside - the '67 is really shaping up into a killer modified car, I can't wait to see the painted car. Small block, runs fabulous, shows what dedication does in the face of finding your car in worse shape than you imagined. Good luck in your future build - keep us updated on your progress (or your decision).

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2014, 12:17:18 AM »

By the way, in pic 1164, is that a spring that was used as a spacer between the inner and outer panel ? Rusted pretty bad, but I think that's what I see. What a disaster -

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2014, 12:33:30 AM »

By the way, in pic 1164, is that a valve spring that was used as a spacer between the inner and outer panel ? Rusted pretty bad, but I think that's what I see. What a disaster -

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Pretty sure that's the top of the visor bracket
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2014, 12:52:56 AM »

Just realized that's what it was.

I've seen some in a local junkyard that have sat in the weather for 30 years that aren't rusted that badly. Amazing what neglect can do to even a driven car -

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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2014, 10:04:13 AM »

I've seen some in a local junkyard that have sat in the weather for 30 years that aren't rusted that badly. Amazing what neglect can do to even a driven car - ...

Probably the difference is in WHERE the car was driven.. and was not in the south (where you and I luckily reside).. Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2014, 11:03:45 AM »

You're 100% correct.

I have always believed that south of the Mason-Dixon line was safer from a road salt point of view, but you should see my Malibu after being continually stuck behind brine trucks and salt spreaders here in Tennessee over the last month. It went from silver to a half inch of dirty grey/brown road salt deposit. Thank goodness I don't have to drive a Camaro to work -

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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2014, 12:47:05 PM »

We don't have salt trucks... Smiley     and on those *rare, once in 4-5 yr* days when we have ice on overpasses, etc..  they use sand (which is not 'good', but much better than salt)...
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69 Corvette convertible, silver/black 350 hp,
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90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
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