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« on: January 16, 2014, 02:53:11 PM »

Well, now you can find out EXACTLY what dealer your car was delivered to!

Starting in mid April, 2014, the National Corvette Restorers Society (NCRS) will now be able to tell you the ordering dealer code, dealer name, dealer location, and the production date that your car (1965 through 1972 for Camaro, Chevelle and Nova) was produced!

Now you can have the same information that was previously only available to 1962-1975 Corvettes. Armed with this data, you may be able to find the original dealer where your car was shipped, and possibly find out more information about your Chevrolet.

The Shipping Data Report can only be ordered online but membership in NCRS is NOT required. Fees will be $50 payable by credit card or PayPal and you will receive via USPS a letter with the information which includes the NCRS official seal. Note that in limited cases the dealer code may not be available or readable, and in this case a full refund will be made.

For more information, click https://www.chevymuscledocs.com/ and again, note that this service starts in mid April, 2014.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 03:05:57 PM »

Awesome! Thank's ED for that infomation, I will sure use it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 03:21:20 PM »

I saw that this morning.  Good stuff.  Definitely will be taking advantage of this service once its available. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 07:08:12 PM »

Excellent!
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 07:34:05 PM »

Ignorant on this, assuming submit vin ? Pretty neat ,looking forward to giving it a try. #1 looked but retained no paperwork ( at first he thought he might have) Luckily POP was kept in the glove compartment--in the owner's manual. All these years.( In my safe now.)
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 07:47:02 PM »

Thanks Ed. Any additional info I can find about my car is always a big plus.   Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 07:53:27 PM »

Ok so NCRS can give up dealer information. How might this give you guys any more then when, where and who, on your cars? Lots of the dealers have closed or records are long gone after 40 years. And most State DMV's woun't give out information without a court order. Am I missing something here?
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 08:36:38 PM »

It can give someone a shot of finding what state their car came from.  From there a possible title search can be done in hopes of finding original owner. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 09:16:56 PM »

Ok so NCRS can give up dealer information. How might this give you guys any more then when, where and who, on your cars? Lots of the dealers have closed or records are long gone after 40 years. And most State DMV's woun't give out information without a court order. Am I missing something here?
It's helped many NCRS members find info pertaining to their corvettes!
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 11:23:46 PM »

Tantalizing, to be sure. If the NCRS can pry this out of GM Heritage, it makes you wonder what GM is still has up the corporate sleeve and keeping from us (take the Pontiac records disclosure as an example)? Sure, they are a private company; sure, they are probably worried about legal ramifications, but why not help us out big time and kick the fraud out of the hobby ?

Wishful thinking, only. I definitely welcome the chance to find out some additional info on a couple of my "investments".

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 11:29:10 PM »

I have the original POP on my car that shows the original owner and selling dealership.  Will this information from NCRS provide anything that I don't already have?  The build sheet is what I'm after to see what options my car was born with.

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 11:33:46 PM »

I have the original POP on my car that shows the original owner and selling dealership.  Will this information from NCRS provide anything that I don't already have?  The build sheet is what I'm after to see what options my car was born with.
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I don't think so - you're already way ahead of the curve (and a lot of us) with the P-O-P. Better documentation doesn't happen - You might consider putting that $50.00 fee on parts or supplies -

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 12:27:03 AM »

Guys woun't your money be better spent on having say... Jerry MacNeish come out and certify your car, as to what it is or is not? I know he can't supply you with photo's taken back in the day, or the POP. I can understand we all want original paper work on our cars, but it's 40 plus years later. People pass on, paper work gets thrown away.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 01:42:12 AM »

Tantalizing, to be sure. If the NCRS can pry this out of GM Heritage, it makes you wonder what GM is still has up the corporate sleeve and keeping from us (take the Pontiac records disclosure as an example)? Sure, they are a private company; sure, they are probably worried about legal ramifications, but why not help us out big time and kick the fraud out of the hobby ?

Wishful thinking, only. I definitely welcome the chance to find out some additional info on a couple of my "investments".

Regards -
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Is this information actually coming from GM Heritage, or are they just allowing it to be released from a third party source such as National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB)?

AFAIK, this information has been known as recorded by NICB, but only accessible under special circumstances. It seems NCRS has arranged access for the common man. Great news.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 01:46:04 AM »

I have the original POP on my car that shows the original owner and selling dealership.  Will this information from NCRS provide anything that I don't already have?  The build sheet is what I'm after to see what options my car was born with.

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You have what you believe is the original POP. What if the records show an altogether different dealer than the one shown on your POP?

I am sure this will catch more than one person by surprise. Maybe not you, but for sure there are a lot of made up POP's out there with guestimated dealerships that are not going to match official records.
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