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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2013, 08:13:57 PM »

According to my July 1969 issue of the 1967-1969 Camaro Master Parts catalog, the heat riser valve is the same part number for the 1967 thru 1969, 302ci, 327ci, and 350 ci engines and that part number is #3887023.  I have my original 1968 Z28 heat riser valve in my hand and it looks identical to the NOS one shown above.  I would take a picture of mine but being it looks identical, I see no reason for another picture.

BTW.....the 1969 AIM shows in the exact position as John Z's.
I saw that in the AIM, and wonder if they were all assembled like that. I have found a couple pics of so called" original cars " where they were installed vertical or parallel to the frame rail.
As I said mine could have been turned by accident(?) when the new exhaust was installed, just seemed unlikely.
(here is a pic of a so called original)
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2013, 09:08:25 PM »

Ran a search on a 3746844 valve and came up with this web page.....http://www.fvstore.com/NOS-OEM-GM-HEAT-RISER-VALVE-3887034-CASTING-3746844/p19738.html.  You can then plug this  #3887034 in the Query String box of this web site.....http://www.gmpartswiki.com/query and then hit the search button and it will give you several instances of this part number applications.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2013, 09:52:46 PM »

According to my July 1969 issue of the 1967-1969 Camaro Master Parts catalog, the heat riser valve is the same part number for the 1967 thru 1969, 302ci, 327ci, and 350 ci engines and that part number is #3887023.  I have my original 1968 Z28 heat riser valve in my hand and it looks identical to the NOS one shown above.  I would take a picture of mine but being it looks identical, I see no reason for another picture.

BTW.....the 1969 AIM shows in the exact position as John Z's.
I saw that in the AIM, and wonder if they were all assembled like that. I have found a couple pics of so called" original cars " where they were installed vertical or parallel to the frame rail.
As I said mine could have been turned by accident(?) when the new exhaust was installed, just seemed unlikely.
(here is a pic of a so called original)


Yours looks to be just turned and looks to be the same as JohnZ's.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2013, 10:12:38 PM »

here is one more from an RS  Z:
But I also have some original pics of some 69 Z cars with it mounted like John Z.
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2013, 10:12:58 PM »

Ran a search on a 3746844 valve and came up with this web page.....http://www.fvstore.com/NOS-OEM-GM-HEAT-RISER-VALVE-3887034-CASTING-3746844/p19738.html.  You can then plug this  #3887034 in the Query String box of this web site.....http://www.gmpartswiki.com/query and then hit the search button and it will give you several instances of this part number applications.

Found #3887034 is for BB and 3887023 is for SB. GM still carries them and I have seen them on line going from $50.00 to $150.00 at the GM parts houses. Reproductions are way cheaper though but who knows about quality.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2013, 10:14:36 PM »

here is one more from an RS  Z:
But I also have some original pics of some 69 Z cars with it mounted like John Z.


Can't tell in that pic but is the lever pointed to the firewall?
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2013, 10:22:37 PM »

the spring retainer pin is pointing at the frame rail, and the counter weight is parallel to the frame.
 (Valve is in the same position as the first pic I put up, just different angle --> HEAD ON perspective instead of from the SIDE)

So I am not convinced there was only one way they were installed on the line, (yet)... Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2013, 10:29:59 PM »

the spring retainer pin is pointing at the frame rail, and the counter weight is parallel to the frame.
 (Valve is in the same position as the first pic I put up, just different angle --> HEAD ON perspective instead of from the SIDE)

So I am not convinced there was only one way they were installed on the line, (yet)... Smiley

So the lever is probably pointing to the firewall and not the radiator, at least it looks like that from the pic.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2013, 10:32:46 PM »

Yes, thats what I see as well.
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2013, 10:55:37 PM »

According to my July 1969 issue of the 1967-1969 Camaro Master Parts catalog, the heat riser valve is the same part number for the 1967 thru 1969, 302ci, 327ci, and 350 ci engines and that part number is #3887023.  I have my original 1968 Z28 heat riser valve in my hand and it looks identical to the NOS one shown above.  I would take a picture of mine but being it looks identical, I see no reason for another picture.

BTW.....the 1969 AIM shows in the exact position as John Z's.
I saw that in the AIM, and wonder if they were all assembled like that. I have found a couple pics of so called" original cars " where they were installed vertical or parallel to the frame rail.
As I said mine could have been turned by accident(?) when the new exhaust was installed, just seemed unlikely.
(here is a pic of a so called original)
According to my July 1969 issue of the 1967-1969 Camaro Master Parts catalog, the heat riser valve is the same part number for the 1967 thru 1969, 302ci, 327ci, and 350 ci engines and that part number is #3887023.  I have my original 1968 Z28 heat riser valve in my hand and it looks identical to the NOS one shown above.  I would take a picture of mine but being it looks identical, I see no reason for another picture.

BTW.....the 1969 AIM shows in the exact position as John Z's.
I saw that in the AIM, and wonder if they were all assembled like that. I have found a couple pics of so called" original cars " where they were installed vertical or parallel to the frame rail.
As I said mine could have been turned by accident(?) when the new exhaust was installed, just seemed unlikely.
(here is a pic of a so called original)

I have an original 69 Z28 w/original  exh. manifolds and still has the old original smog equip,  mine is installed like this.
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2013, 11:16:48 PM »

Hey Mike,

which way is yours installed like John Z, or like the pics I posted? what is the build date of your car? (just curious if they may have installed it differently at one point)
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2013, 11:41:28 PM »

The weight points towards the firewall
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2013, 12:29:32 AM »

The weight points towards the firewall
Well thats what is debatable, JohnZ car it is pointed towards firewall, and it also shows that in the AIM. I have seen original cars with it both ways (weight pointed to the firewall, or pointed to the frame rail). It made me wonder if they switched the way they mounted them, Maybe later 69 cars have it pointed towards the firewall? or who was working that shift on the line when installing? Just a wild guess on my part.
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2013, 08:36:32 AM »

Here's my '69Z.

JohnZ's heat riser appears to be mounted (as I view it) where the weight is pointing towards the RF wheel well... (NOT towards firewall).

Someone referenced the AIM.. I've searched thru it, looking for a view of the heat riser,and could not find one.  What section/page is this located in?

and to respond to another comment:   Yes, Z28's have/had headers (or 99% did) within a few days of delivery, as that was the intention of the engineer who conceived/designed the 302... Smiley .. it's only now that we are all striving to 'restore' to factory configuration.. Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »

UPC-6, sheet C6....the Engine Section
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