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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2013, 07:43:20 AM »

Matt,

 I am not so sure that the '68 is the same as '67. In other words, I don't think the black extends in to the door sill to be visible for an R/S option car.
I can only go by my notes taken from the 80's when I restored my car and in it I listed "black rocker top paint line under thin R/S strip"
and "black paint extends and wraps around edges" (edges meaning wheel opening).
 Doing it that way by having the paint line under the metal strip would certainly not have the paint extend visible into the sill area.
Now I am having doubts too so unless I can see a '67 (I am assuming you mean 67 too???) with original blackout then I'm sticking by my notes. My other '67 with original paint and R/S option is Tahoe Turquoise so there was no rocker blackout to reference.

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 08:24:40 AM »

My last post( I spend way too much time on this site Cheesy)

Could there not have been some variation ? There has always been some debate on underside finish ,overspray/primer. When I stripped it underneath this summer (sucked) and got down to the layer of body color : passenger side had overspray heavy under rockers well under drivers seat, pass side very light under rocker--above the tank might as well been bare metal. Maybe the painter's knees were beginning to hurt! Any more pics from survivors would be welcome from me also. To me these imperfections from the factory are where the detail hides today.
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 08:43:24 AM »

Yup. I am definitely talking 67 RS.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 08:43:42 AM »

I didnt realize 67 had the blackout in the rocker area..  Was it at the beginning of production?

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 06:33:23 PM »

 I don't know if it was at the very beginning but my 5B Butternut Yellow has it.
That picture is likely a press release model and we know how they can vary from the actual at times.
I see it's lacking the engine size fender emblems.

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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 07:01:27 PM »

I don't know if it was at the very beginning but my 5B Butternut Yellow has it.
That picture is likely a press release model and we know how they can vary from the actual at times.
I see it's lacking the engine size fender emblems.

Mike

That is true..  I'll see if I can dig some more & find more vintage photos.
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 09:56:34 PM »

Learn something new every day..   Several pics I've found are very hard to see it but you can tell its darker than the rest of the car..  It's very hidden on the 67 &/or I just never noticed it before..   Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2013, 02:26:27 PM »

I do have a 'New Camaro' brochure on the Camaro which would have come out ahead of the line. None of the artist renditions in the brochure, even the lighter ones has the blacked out rockers, however... in the text, buried deep late in the publication, the very last sentence of the last paragraph actually, states, "Also, depending on exterior color, body sill is black below side molding when Rally Sport is specified" The bow-tie and 350 fender emblem also are missing throughout the entire magazine.

I had my car blasted prior to digging down into the colors. Under my door sill plate the color is definitely the original Sierra Fawn as I had that taped off prior to blasting to keep a reference color. I did not blast the fenders yet and was able to sand down where the bumble bee stripe was and found black. I will look for the sill paint here soon.

Mine was a NOV '66 production.

In the picture above, that is a snapshot of the first Camaro commercial done, a 2 minute commercial on Youtube and the sill paint on that car is definitely not blacked out. Solid shots of the car throughout the commercial.

My suspicions are that it truly was an after thought that hit right when the cars met the dealers for the first time and then cars were then shot from then on.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2013, 04:58:35 PM »

Again, this is from an 11B build code Camaro out of LOS. My glove box sticker is still readable with '5 passenger' limitation, indicating likely prior to 16 Nov 66 for build date.

Front fender shows that sill paint, at least on the fender, began well above standard trim piece and solidly behind RS trim piece.

Passenger door sill shows no paint under door trim piece.

Don't know if this helps anyone... pending further info, I will likely paint on top of rocker lip going into door sill, but stop it there. May go up under the door sill trim like the '68 shown previously.

Won't be painting for a while though...
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2013, 05:34:21 PM »

Upscope,

  I emailed pics of my 67's original rockers black out paint (10B). Hope they help. GW
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2013, 05:35:16 PM »

 As I understand it from reading the assembly process article, the front fenders were painted by Chevrolet and Fisher built and painted the main body. The blackouts were done in separate paint shops (Fisher and Chevy) so the fenders and main body sill blackouts may not line up.
Is there original paint on the rockers to reference the top edge?

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2013, 05:36:17 PM »

Upscope,

  I emailed pics of my 67's original rockers black out paint (10B). Hope they help. GW

I'd sure would like to see them too!

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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2013, 05:42:51 PM »

Sill paint does not go into door sill. Along the rocker it stops behind the standard trim below RS trim. GW thanks very much! Matt
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2013, 05:47:40 PM »

All,

Courtesy of GW... Thanks very much!

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2013, 05:54:46 PM »

That's what I was trying to say!
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