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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2013, 12:08:06 PM »
Some of the darker colored cars, look like they really got shortchanged on the cowl blackout.  My white car has a nice defined line across the top edge of the cowl. like the Hurrer orange car, but no signs of white on the top of the cowl tag, or any upper edges on the firewall.
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 04:03:16 PM »
The top of the cowl tag should not have body color overspray on it.  The entire car body was painted body color, and then the firewall was blacked out.  That car has had the body color repsrayed, but not the firewall.  The firewall/body color line looks good other than the fact its body color over black instead of black over body color.

No, Mark, it IS original paint. Not resprayed! You can clearly see the backout is over the orange and varies side to side. My paint is just in really excellent condition:




 








 
 
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2013, 06:43:42 PM »
So if the firewall blackout is up that high then it is safe to assume there will be black over-spray in the cowl where the wiper motor mechanics are?

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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2013, 11:32:21 PM »
I agree - I've seen the top edges of tags with body color on them before.
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2013, 12:08:11 AM »
So if the firewall blackout is up that high then it is safe to assume there will be black over-spray in the cowl where the wiper motor mechanics are?

Mike

No, there was a shield used to keep the overspray off the top of the cowl.  GM paint specifications call for blackout to be applied down in those wire well, but it was hardly, if ever done.  My well is orange overspray from the cowl grill geting  sprayed orange for the stripes, there was another mask placed over the top of the cowl so the areas under the cowl grilles could be sprayed stripe color, before the firewall blackout was applied, but that is only seen on Z28's , Z10's and Z11's.
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2013, 09:45:52 PM »
And the firewall on my VN 04B was painted a dark Fathom green.  Go figure.  Note the "23' original factory marking on the driver side cowl section.  The car is Cortez Silver while the firewall is metallic green - painted by the factory.

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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2013, 10:21:41 PM »
 Interesting! I didn't think the spray guns went down that far in front of the bulkhead but seeing your picture it looks like it did.

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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2013, 11:15:10 PM »
Somebody either grabbed the wrong color gun during the blackout operations.  or maybe they were momentarily out of black.  The line does not stop for something like that.
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2013, 11:25:19 PM »
Agree.  I've seen a few cars other VN cars built around the same time and they also had green firewalls. As you point out, my guess is they ran out of black paint and picked something close to keep the line running.   
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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2013, 11:44:35 PM »
 You're right....I see what you mean. I didn't realize the firewall color was different from the main body color.
Using whatever was available sure makes sense.

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Re: Top of cowl paint color line
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2013, 03:16:57 AM »
F.Y.I In Rolls Royce production when they ran out of anything they used the next thing which often was even a different manufacture. So today you dont know what even is or was the correct part as no numbers or finishes or parts ever matched! In thr run of Silver Shadows Ones 1965 to 1976 for instance they produced about 28,000 cars and theres at least 4 different EGR systems, maybe more of the cruise control locations and types and on and on. At least with GM you have some type of standardazation! I love these discussions it helps us all greatly.