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« on: April 06, 2013, 07:04:42 AM »

Was checking this car out since the ebay auction stated that it was original paint car and noticed that in the pics I don't see any black paint on the rockers. IF this a is an original paint car would the plant actually miss painting this? Would this happen? My car is a Cortez Silver car with maybe 3 repaints but the rockers were never repainted and am curious if I should add the black or leave it off.


http://www.ecarlist.com/showroom/2999/photos/7204593#08
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 08:13:03 AM »

"Body sill black-out paint was applied to Z22 (RS) cars in 1967 and 1968, and to Z21 (style trim), Z22 (RS), and COPO 9560/9561 cars in 1969."

http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint


Unless the car you are looking at has one of the options listed above, then it would not have the body sill black out. It is not a COPO or a Z22 RS car, and I do not see any of the Z21 exterior style trim (bright wheel opening moldings, bright drip moldings (coupe). Fender pinstriping (67 & 69). Bright belt moldings (68). Rear fender louvers), on the car in the link. I would say that no the body sills should not be black out and should be the same as the body color.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 01:28:13 PM »

Yeah I read that. Ok. Mine is an 69 X33, has all the exterior brite trim. Non RS, no deluxe interior just standard 711 interior, has the pedal trim and the rosewood trim left and right of the column and the steering wheel shroud and has the dash grab handle. With that trim should or shouldn't my car have the black rockers? I'm assuming the X77 did not get the black rockers based on these pics, correct?

"Body sill black-out paint was applied to Z22 (RS) cars in 1967 and 1968, and to Z21 (style trim), Z22 (RS), and COPO 9560/9561 cars in 1969."

http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint


Unless the car you are looking at has one of the options listed above, then it would not have the body sill black out. It is not a COPO or a Z22 RS car, and I do not see any of the Z21 exterior style trim (bright wheel opening moldings, bright drip moldings (coupe). Fender pinstriping (67 & 69). Bright belt moldings (68). Rear fender louvers), on the car in the link. I would say that no the body sills should not be black out and should be the same as the body color.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »

Style Trim codes are X11, X33. With the exception of the darker colors noted these cars would have black rocker panels. Black rockers were also part of SS equipment; X22, X55, X66 would also have them.

The Cortez Silver Z/28 in question is X77 and would not have black rockers.

The COPO notation is incorrect; had nothing to do with trim.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 04:15:50 PM »

Thanks William. Been wanting to find that out for a while. So my X33 should have blacked out rockers. I just saw a pic of a Lemans Blue SS with the blacked out rockers but it looked too overly done. When the rockers were sprayed I thought I had read somewhere that the rockers were not painted completely underneath and the lip underneath mostly got overspray. Is that correct?


Style Trim codes are X11, X33. With the exception of the darker colors noted these cars would have black rocker panels. Black rockers were also part of SS equipment; X22, X55, X66 would also have them.

The Cortez Silver Z/28 in question is X77 and would not have black rockers.

The COPO notation is incorrect; had nothing to do with trim.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 08:48:30 PM »

Rockers have 3 surfaces; just the vertical surfaces were painted black.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 10:24:42 PM »

Attached below is a photo of the factory paint on my rockers showing what has been stated about the rocker paint...
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 04:40:30 AM »

Great pic. Just what I was looking for. I wonder how different each car was or were the rockers sprayed they same way every time? 



Attached below is a photo of the factory paint on my rockers showing what has been stated about the rocker paint...
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 06:33:14 AM »

Rockers were sprayed by humans, by hand so they can vary in coverage area significantly.  All should have a straight tape line thru the center of the spear mounting holes though.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 08:27:47 PM »

The COPO notation is incorrect; had nothing to do with trim.
Good catch. Fixed.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 04:13:01 PM »

Does anybody have a paint code for this blacked out area?

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 05:31:30 PM »

The COPO notation is incorrect; had nothing to do with trim.
Good catch. Fixed.
Thanks I was wondering about that myself when I posted it but was not as sure as you guys.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 06:53:52 PM »

So what is the right paint to use. There has been a difference of opinion from what I have read. Is it the same color as the rear black out panel? or is it the same color as the paint used for black stripes. It is not often that we get to see original rocker black out paint. I am going to paint mine soon and I want to make sure that I use the right paint.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 09:17:37 PM »

From looking at mine, I'm guessing it's the same 'black' used for the black Z28 stripes...
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 11:20:01 PM »

From looking at mine, I'm guessing it's the same 'black' used for the black Z28 stripes...

That is great news Steve. I painted the rockers when my car was painted last time and I used trim black, which was recommended for the firewall and engine compartment. I however did not like that finish, so I am now correcting it.

Also i noticed on the bottom of my car much like yours, that the original paint is much glossier than I would have imagined, before I removed the under coating. The same on my friends original paint survivor. I am trying to find out how to match that color as well. According to your picture there are 3 different colors of black on the rockers. I want to get all of the colors/shade/amount of gloss correct this time around.
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