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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #120 on: July 03, 2015, 09:14:36 PM »
I no longer have the tank.  One of my nephews decided to jack the car up by the gas tank back in the late 80's.   He was about 10 years old at the time.

I did pressurize the tank to pop the dent out, and it wasn't leaking, but it was just too ugly.   I gave it to a local guy who was building a 69 on a tight budget and needed a tank.

I had no idea that tanks were dated as much as 4 months after the car build.  Will have too look for that thread.  Makes no sense.   Perhaps a government worker was put in charge of gas tank dating.

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« Reply #121 on: July 03, 2015, 09:36:31 PM »
I was not aware of the gas tank date thread. Thanks Austin.

Lynn, there could still have been a failure though. Any other signs of that? Dents or signs of repair?

Again we need more data from this time. I have not run across anything unusual from the axle plants for full size or Chevelles. Yet.
No problem, And I agree it would be nice to find some more cars from this time frame. I don't see to many 08A, or July cars, but I know they are out there.
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #122 on: July 04, 2015, 01:50:57 AM »
Lynn, not all government workers are bad.

The coding changed and for your tank the decode was week one of the 1970 model year, not the calendar year. Obviously the Camaro model year for 69 was extended - but the gas tank codes changed.

What I meant was - is there any other damage on the underside of the car that might suggest a failure?
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« Reply #123 on: July 04, 2015, 02:27:27 AM »
Lynn,

Your 1  70 tank was from the first week of August...
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« Reply #124 on: July 04, 2015, 08:28:29 PM »
Lynn, not all government workers are bad.

I know not all Gov workers are bad.  Just easy to make fun of them.... like making fun of lawyers, right?   And I do that too.

There were very minor dents just in front of the pinion snubber, but nothing bigger than a pencil eraser.  I worked them out when I was detailing the floor, and did not have to use any filler.

Yes, I now know the 1 70 tank was first week of Aug.  Just didn't know at the time, and probably would not have used it anyway because of the dented up bottom.

Owning an 08A car has made me take special note over the years when I see one.   Seems that dated components are all over the place.  I have seen an 08A car with a May dated engine, as well as one with an Aug. 2 dated engine.  Engines, alts, distributors and trannys are all over the place, especially transmissions.

Also, 08A is when they started using the mylar vin decal in the door.   I know my car should have received one, but it didn't.  The John Berry car, which probably rolled out the same day, did get the sticker.

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« Reply #125 on: July 04, 2015, 08:45:33 PM »
*I am not sure about Johns having the sticker. It has a reproduction sticker on it now, ( you can see a pic of it in Jerrys book), and when I asked about a pic of the original sticker, I was told they never took a picture of it prior to restoration? So, much like Bryon with this thread, I would like to see another 08A car with the original sticker to verify that cars from 08A came with the sticker.
 So far in my research I have Zilch. Earliest I have seen I think was 08E. ( which would have been delivered after September 1st when it was required)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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« Reply #126 on: July 05, 2015, 03:46:36 PM »
I guess I incorrectly assumed that Berry's white Z was an unrestored car.   I have the earlier version of Jerry's book, and IIRC (big if) it just refers to it as a 5000 mile Z.  Don't know why you would restore a 5000 mile car.   But then, mine had only 26000 on it and if DEFINITELY needed restoring.  It had been rode hard and put up wet.
Personally, I don't know that the mileage makes much difference once a car is restored, other than mileage since restoration.

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« Reply #127 on: July 05, 2015, 05:27:36 PM »
Maybe as a testament to how much the car was used? or for a original motor, maybe to indicate that a rebuild wasn't neccessary.

So it sounds like there wasn't any major damage, and its possible your rear end is original to the car. When you purchased the car did they give you any history about the car, or do you by chance still keep in contact with anyone that used to own it? You said your car has been kind of a local car for a while, maybe there are others familiar with your cars history? I am just trying to think of some different ways to figure it out

1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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« Reply #128 on: July 05, 2015, 06:11:26 PM »
My car's history is a complete dead end for anything prior to my brother purchasing in 1975.   He was only 15.   The car was sitting behind a repair shop when he bought it from the business owner.   No one remembers the name of the business.  Years ago I even tracked down the former owner of the building.   Turned out to be a retired judge.  I was able to find him in the 90's.   He  had no recollection of who the tenant was in 75, and told me he had multiple tenants during the 70's but kept no records.
That was my first dead end.   The second one was the Tax Commission "losing" any record of the car prior to my ownership.   They don't even have a record of my brother owning it for that year (I traded for it in 1976).    It really doesn't matter to me if it is the original rear or not.  But.... would be nice to know.


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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #129 on: July 05, 2015, 06:49:20 PM »
BTW, there is an 08D Z on ebay.   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-/191615774396?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c9d30aebc&item=191615774396

Had a color change from FG to burgundy, so it will be no help on the sticker issue.  BDY number 103834

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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #130 on: July 10, 2015, 06:37:29 PM »
I started a new thread, which will open things up a bit to include stampings from 10 bolt axles.

Here is the thread.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=13565.0
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #131 on: November 04, 2015, 08:27:10 PM »
Bump...
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #132 on: November 05, 2015, 05:02:25 PM »

1969 SS350
BM 01 024G1
01C
A 21 9

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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2015, 03:28:52 AM »

1969 SS350
BM 01 024G1
01C
A 21 9

Jim

Thanks Jim. The time frame that we are most interested in is around August 1969.  But we will use your data.  Thanks for posting. 

Just one thing though.  It looks like you have an extra number in your axle assembly date info.  Can you check it again?
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1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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« Reply #134 on: November 10, 2015, 03:44:04 PM »
You are correct. Assembly date should be BM 0124G1.

Jim