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Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« on: December 28, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »
I've owned my '69 Z28/RS since 1976.   it's an original car, 95% complete (missing the smog).  It's unrestored, and I want to retain it's unrestored status, although I am doing some cleanup and *preserving* in getting it back on the road (it's been stored in my garage for 32 yrs).   I have new ceramic coated headers which I'd planned to use to replace the rusted out hedmans I removed.  I also have an extremely nice set of '69 exhaust manifolds (removed on day 1 from a friend's '69 Z28) which I *could* use if I wanted to put it back to 'factory configuration'.  My problem:   Since I don't have the smog setup, and know essentially nilch about them, I'm not clear on what is correct, acceptable, or unacceptable.   
The Parts Place (illinois?) has an ebay listing for a smog system supposedly correct for '69 and '70 Z28s.  Combination of original restored and new components for $795 BIN.    They supposedly have 15 such systems.   I'm interested in what you fellas, much more knowledgable than I on smog setups, think about this system.    Should I buy one and put it on my unrestored (but smogless) Z28?   Am I adding 'correctness' if I do so, or am I just adversely impacting the 'unrestored' status of my car?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270361054902?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 04:28:45 PM »
Man I would love to see pics of your car.

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 04:40:36 PM »
Have you read this CRG report?

http://www.camaros.org/emissions.shtml

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 04:58:19 PM »
Gary, The pumps do have a julian date code on them so you want to keep that in mind. The tuff part to get is the correct pulley. They can be very costly.
Rick
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 05:06:38 PM »
Gary
 Please call and talk to Bill Hodel in Massillon Ohio. #330-832-0871      He may be helpfull in putting a survivor system together for you, lot's of people know him and have used him.
 And yes, show us the car  :>)

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 05:07:36 PM »
He has the correct pulley listed but it's probably a repop for that price. Gary get in touch with Pacecar Jeff if you want a correct used set up.
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 07:48:08 PM »
Thanks for the information guys!   I'll followup with the contacts mentioned. 
I don't have a lot of photos, but I think I have an 'older' photo from the 80's (pushed out of the garage).. :)  and a more recent photo inside my newer garage.  I'll post those but soon (hopefully) I'll have it all back together and ready for more photos.   I'm hoping to take it to the Camaro nationals some year soon for judging.. :)

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 09:07:48 PM »
Check out the Parts Place, Inc. also for spot-on repop pulleys. Decent pricing, too. Complete systems are available (turnkey, less manifolds).

You can put together a correct system for a lot less money than some of the suppliers ask - takes some creative scrounging, but it can be done ( I have three smog cars - thanks goodness for one automatic - ).

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Steve
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 09:17:30 PM »
I should have added that I have bought from them before - your original post mentioned them (I was confirming them as a source).

$79.00 for the 2458 pulley is a heck of a lot better than the ones I have seen advertised at $600 - $1200 NOS (and higher). I guess it depends on your desire to keep it as a survivor or what level of restoration you want to accomplish or have it judged for.

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 10:18:18 PM »
Steve, Would you happen to have a pic of one of those repop pulleys?

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 04:04:52 AM »
Might check with Jerry MacNeish too.

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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 04:29:25 AM »
Several listed on eBay, from ink-stamped later production to originals - don't get me wrong, I would always rather have original GM over repops (any day of the week), but in light of the fact I don't want to spend $600 on a pulley when I can get a decent repro of one, good price, I'll bite until I can find an original.

The 2 pics attached - one that I pirated from Parts Place, the other is a current eBay listing at $599.00. I saw Pacecar Jeff's listings on there as well. I would rather have the stamped versions as closer to the originals than the ink-stamped ones myself. Note the stamping on the repop is pretty close in font and position to the pic of an original, with the original added "P" stamp at 120 degrees. (at least I belive it's an original - one never knows !)

The disclaimer - this is always my own opinion - everyone has a different one -

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Steve
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 04:45:02 AM »
Beg your pardon - the "original" pulley pic on eBay is not $599.00 - it's $999.00. The other "original" at $599.00 is an ink-stamped version.

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Steve
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 07:12:24 AM »
Man I would love to see pics of your car.
   
Charley, it doesn't look like much now it's been sitting so long.   Attached below is a photo from sometime in the 80's when I pushed the car out of the basement garage to wash the dust/dirt off.  (I haven't driven it since Dec of 1980)
The second photo is from oct 2007, I'd moved and now the car is sitting in a different basement garage.  The front part of the hood had had prior 'bondo' for a softball dent' and was cracking, so I smeared paint over it and in the cracks.. :)
The last two photos are from Oct 2008; I'd removed the hood and had stripped the bondo from it (it will need at least the front portion repainted).   Left front and right front views are shown when I pushed the car out for another 'washing'.. :)
Those are the last photos I have with the car 'more of less whole' as I've been removing parts and cleaning for reinstallation since then (as I've had time)...  I do have lots of 'detailed and parts' photos if anyone has any desire to see them...
Gary
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Re: Original/Reproduction Smog Setups for '69 Z28??
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 05:00:39 PM »
Steve,  Thanks for the pic's. Boy $1000 for that pulley? That's half of what I paid for my car back in the day.
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