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Decoding/Numbers / Re: trim tag build month
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:59:55 PM »
Not sure they had the aluminum case glide as early as 60, more likely 70.  Cleveland plant, 70 model year, Oct 8th night shift?  Or maybe the pan was replace at some point with a used one. See here where it would be partial VIN stamped.  http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#trans

Can be stamped on either side, and it's very difficult to see with the trans in the car.  Probably need an inspection mirror and flashlight, rags and solvent and a little luck.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: trim tag build month
« on: June 19, 2012, 07:36:51 PM »
Was asking about the tranny pan if still original.  Should be a stamping on the passenger side, side of the pan, from the transmission plant.  Probably starts with a T or C.

Yes yours would have been the 8th scheduled LOS body unit, regardless of model, on day K (or 11th production day) of the scheduling month.  Scheduling month did not necessarily match up exactly with the calendar month, i.e. day A was not necessarily the actual first day of the month.  You'll run across this in better detail in the Numbers Decode section of the site.  Do you have any factory or dealer documentation for the car?  Back in the day I found Fisher Body inspection cards under the rear seat or carpet, however they are not from my car, must have been tossed under there as trash or mixed up.

By H6 and H16 I was referring to August 6 and 16th or whatever mine actually are.  They would really appear as H66 cast into the block rear and V0816MU stamped on the front pad beside the partial VIN.  Your K286 is cast Nov 28, 1966, assembled on December 30th at Flint.  Use of the 67 chrome filler tube by plant, RPO etc. has been somewhat of an old informal research topic, nice to have another reference point.   
 

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Restoration / Re: firewall paint
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:57:31 PM »
A handy tool on this site is the search option.  Right above your post, you can type in the search box (or click on advanced search for a more refined search) a few key words like "firewall paint" of "firewall blackout"  You then hopefully get old threads which begin to address your question while others reply to your post.  If no results appear, use other or fewer key words.  Firewall should be blacked out, with a non-distinct transition to body color at the top.  Another good thing to read on this site is under the CRG Reports section, The First-Generation Camaro Assembly Process by our expert contributor JohnZ: http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml       

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: trim tag build month
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:42:37 PM »
Mine is K250, same day.  My original L48 and glide were also blown back in the day, rear is original 3.31 non posi and stamped Oct 31.  After years of looking I found a freshly rebuilt MU a couple years ago, out of the car about 700 units before mine.  The cast date was H6 and assembly stamp around H16, so it must have been pushed to the back of the holding area.  Is your original filler tube chrome?

If you look at those decode sections, it shows where to look for the tranny and axle stamps.  The partial VIN was not stamped on the rear, just the axle plant info.  My glide is out of a 68 and was stamped right along the passenger side flange where it mates to the block right above the bend for the inspection cover.  As you'll read, LOS was also somewhat erratic at stamping so you might not find the partial VIN on the glide, but look closely.  What's the stamp on the pan?

They started with 100001 on the 67 VINs, so your's is 17,144th 67 VIN from LOS. http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml
If you have interest in the body number this is good to know about early 67 LOS system http://www.camaros.org/bodynumbering.shtml#67LOS

220,906 in 67, info is found here http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany
If you look at the table below that, you'll see your VIN falls into about the middle of November.  For reasons unknown, the LOS plant in November 66 did not advance the body build date code on the tag beyond 11B.

 

   

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: trim tag build month
« on: June 19, 2012, 04:48:00 AM »
This would have been November 1966, the model years began in August and would run to around early July the following year.  Same as it still is today, the model year was generally introduced a few months before the calendar year.  See here under the General Information section: http://camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#ModelYear  That same section contains info on how many built by plant and month http://camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany  Unlike Norwood, the Van Nuys plant also assembled full size passenger models, thus the additional information shown.   

You will want to start by reading the decode sections listed on the main page, especially to decode your Fisher Body trim tag and also see if your drivetrain is original, or if other components are dated correctly for your car.  The RPO (Regular Production Option) codes can be found here  http://camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf  along with availability and totals by year, however they cannot accurately be taken in combinations.  That level of records was not kept.  For example, you can see how many L48 SS were made in a year, and how many cars had A/C, but you cannot determine how many Sierra Fawn L48s had A/C.  Information on paint colors can be found in the Exterior section.  Sierra Fawn code S is estimated to only have been used on about 2% of 67s.        

My car is less than 200 units after yours, also 11B LOS RS/SS.  Once you read up on trim tags, let me know what your LOS body scheduling code is.   I'd also be interested in your block casting date if you still have the original engine.  Welcome to the site.   

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General Discussion / Re: For The Camaro Dad Who Has Everything
« on: June 17, 2012, 11:08:21 PM »
Looks like the rear leaf springs on that carriage need re-arched  ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Maryland show 2012
« on: June 15, 2012, 07:36:37 PM »
Never went to Carlisle show, but here's a discussion of last year's show in Frederick
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8119.0

I recently asked the MD Camaro Club if there was a list of 2012 vendors, but did not get a reply.

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Originality / Re: video of the camaro 67 presentation in France
« on: June 13, 2012, 06:28:53 PM »
I'm wondering if the lights behind the grille were yellowish?  I recall that was the normal type headlight in France back in the 80s and possibly earlier.

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General Discussion / Re: Original 67 Floor Mats???
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:52:41 AM »
HBC also claims these are exactly as original, FWIW:
http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/15434/Camaro-Floor-mats-dealer-accessory-67-68-69/

Note it says trim to fit.  Maybe why yours show cut marks.

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General Discussion / Re: Original 67 Floor Mats???
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:38:31 AM »
Also, go here
http://gmpartswiki.com/w/Main_Page

and enter:
67 camaro floor mats
or something to that effect in the search box, maybe you'll get lucky and find them.  Click on the results at left to enlarge the hits.  It appears you'll need to do some deciphering, the first few are trunk mat, firewall mat, carpet etc.  Maybe looks for ones that list colors.  Good luck    

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General Discussion / Re: Original 67 Floor Mats???
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:30:38 AM »
Not a lot of help, but here's the page from the 67 options pamphlet that shows floormats.  No indication of which model is shown



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Restoration / Re: 67 bench seat parts
« on: June 11, 2012, 08:09:15 PM »
I'm thinking you're going to need to place a parts wanted ad over at TC or monitor eBay, never seen that part repopped.  And most likely someone would want to sell you an entire bench seat.

Here's an old thread from here, if you scroll down through the ugly pics you can somewhat see how that plastic part must have looked:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2031.0

 

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General Discussion / Re: Fold Down Rear Seat
« on: June 11, 2012, 07:35:48 PM »
Is thefold down rear seat one of the rarer options for the 69? A buddy has a 69 Z/28 RS hugger orange , White vinyl top deluxe white houndstooth interior ,fold down rear seat  ....

You can go to the CRG main page, click on the "Options" box in the grid, then find and download the RPO spreadsheet to see how many were sold in 69.  That document is good for a lot of other questions you may have in the future.  Make sure you read the notes also to fully understand the numbers.  From above, looks like the RPO code is A67.

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Finally remembered to post this:

67 LOS, 11B build, L48 w/ Pglide
49.5 inches center to center, yokes are # 3790024 rear is 280A and front 280D
U bolts, axle is PC1031G 3:31, yokes are clocked






Replaced my front u-joint this weekend and found orange and light green paint markings on the yoke:









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Dave I've always had good luck using NAPA parts. Most of their parts are better/good quality. Moog is your better quality front suspension parts. Timkin bearings are still made in the U.S.A. and are best bearings. I stayed with 2 piece rotors and found just the rotors on Amazon.com cheaper than anywhere. They were Wagner or Bendex so they were good quality name brand parts.

Daniel, you've found a source for buying just the rotor portion on disc brake two-piece hub/rotor assemblies?  I've seen the repops but always as the full assembly. 

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