hood/headliner insulation question-1969 Z28

[JST69Z28]

Did a 1969 Z28 come with hood insulation if it didn't have the cowl induction setup?  My Z28 has the hood scoop w/302 emblems but no cowl induction air cleaner.   

Did the car come with insulation above the headliner? 

I am starting to restore it for the 2nd time (I've had it for 40 years) and want to get it right. 

[x66 714]

Ducted hood & deluxe interior cars got an under hood mat. The roof does have some sort of fiber board attached to the inside of the roof. Was you car built duing the time frame when ducted hoods were available? A large percentage of them had flat hoods? Restoring a car back to right can take some people to a place where some aren't happy with. My X66 car had no style trim, no ducted hood, no spoilers, no power windows & no rally sport. Move the front antenna back to the rear. Lots of holes to fill..Joe

[JST69Z28]

Joe,
I attached a photo of the car.  When you say ducted hood, do you mean the raised part in the middle?  If so, I have it, and it was original.  It didn't have insulation in either the hood or above the headliner but I will add it if it could have been there or if it is recommended.  I live in Florida, so especially for the headliner it should lower the internal temp on a hot day.  My car was built in July 1969. 
John Thomson

[x66 714]

X33 or X77?....Joe

[JST69Z28]

X77

[x66 714]

So that means to do it correctly the quarter louvers & wheel lip moldings would need to go away. I can't tell if it has rain gutter chrome but if it does, it would need to come off. X77 had no style trim group...Joe

[JST69Z28]

More great info, thanks. Do you know if selling dealers offered and installed the louvers and wheel lip moldings?

[william]

Z21 Style Trim Group also included bright trim on the headlamp bezels and tail lamps, black paint on the rocker panels for most colors. Included D96 fender striping except SS and Z/28.

RS included much of the Z21 trim.

[cook_dw]

Cruise around the main page and read through all the tabs and you will discover a lot of great information that has already been discussed.  Good luck with your 2nd round of restoration.  CRG website is a great site for information and correctness.  Also might follow Lloyd's 69 Z project over on Team Camaro.

Camaro Research Group Main Page


1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes


Brooklyn Project

[JST69Z28]

I just finished reviewing the Brooklyn project.  Amazing detail for restoring every major part of the Camaro, and for Lloyd to take the time to document, photograph, and post all of it for others to share is truly exceptional.  Thanks for sending.

[Dave69x33]

All,

One indication to determine if the hood is original to the car: check to see if it is date coded on the vertical side flange in the driver's side back corner that faces out to the side of the car.  To my knowledge and research, most all the factory installed hood regardless of the hood style (flat, ZL2 cowl induction hood, or SS hood) are date coded.  It can be difficult to see and primer and paint might have filled in the digits. 

The body trim plate on my '69 Norwood build RS Z28 is "05A" for the 1st week of May.  My Camaro includes an original ZL2 hood dated "18" for the 18th week in 1969 which mean the hood was fabricated between 4/28 - 5/4/1969. Unfortunately I do not have the original paperwork, POP, etc. so I cannot be 100% sure this ZL2 hood is original to my car, but the corresponding dates code are a good indication it is the original hood. My car is loaded with options so whoever originally purchased my Camaro check nearly all the option boxes! 

YES....I do have the NCRS shipping data report and the original selling dealer, Glockner Chevrolet in Portsmouth, OH which is still in business and an interesting story!  Unfortunately they had a warehouse fire and lost much of their old sales and service history.  That was a big bummer.

[Dave69x33]

I am not at home at the moment to share a picture of my date coded hood, but I found these two examples in my phone. These pics were take this past May 2022 at the Mecum Indy auction. Both of these '69 Camaro were very original and unrestored cars which were great to review and photo document.

The white hood (SS hood) is from a '69 SS Norwood build "05A" car with a "14" dated hood.

The yellow hood (flat hood) is from a '69 Z28 Norwood build "04C" car with a "13" dated hood.

As you can see, the parts did not sit long in line side stock before they were pulled for use. I find this to be the situation on most all the original date coded components on these original survivors!

 

[JST69Z28]

My car is a 07A car, and I just received the NCRS doc showing the official production date as 7/3/69.  Attached is a photo of the corner of the hood, I can't make out any numbers. Were there any original hoods that did not have the number?

[Dave69x33]

It's possible that some original hoods may not have been dated coded. I can only share that all the Chevys and Pontiacs I have reviewed so far that appears to be original survivor cars, the hoods were dated coded.

[Edgemontvillage]

I just finished reviewing the Brooklyn project.  Amazing detail for restoring every major part of the Camaro, and for Lloyd to take the time to document, photograph, and post all of it for others to share is truly exceptional.  Thanks for sending.

Thanks John, glad you enjoyed the build thread. Just added some new material.