1969 early L.A. cars

[BULLITT65]

So I have been meaning to start this thread for a little while now. I know there are many differences for the early production cars vs. late. I also wanted to see if there are many differences between early L.A. cars vs. Norwood.

One thing I noticed recently is my 10B L.A. car which has a 711 interior code, (black standard), and has metal seat belt buckles, where my 08C (late 69) norwood car, with the same interior code has plastic. Also both cars have the Z23 option.

[ko-lek-tor]

not sure, but I thought there was an option A39?  those metal seat belt buckles were an option upgrade.

[bertfam]

One thing I noticed recently is my 10B L.A. car which has a 711 interior code, (black standard), and has metal seat belt buckles, where my 08C (late 69) norwood car, with the same interior code has plastic. Also both cars have the Z23 option.

Z23 has nothing to do with the seat belts. EVERY car came with the standard (plastic buckle) belts unless RPO A39, AK1 or ZK3 was ordered. (More info HERE)

As for differences between early, mid and late, and differences between L.A. and Norwood, there are literally dozens and dozens!. Most small and minor, but a few major.

Ed

[BULLITT65]

OK, was A39, a stand alone option, or was it used in conjunction with any other options? Also is the dates on the seat belts all line up with the car, is there any other way to check that these were original to this car?

[bertfam]

Deluxe belts weren't required with any other option, so yes, they were stand alone. If your belts are original, the dates should be close to the cars build.

Ed

[HOT3O2]

My deluxe belts on my 12B LA built car are dated 48 (week).

[BULLITT65]

Rick do you have deluxe interior? or was yours a stand alone option?

[HOT3O2]

It has the deluxe interior.

[cook_dw]

Austin it doesn't matter if the car had deluxe or standard interior..  The seat belts was a separate option.  You could get deluxe interior with standard belts.  Ricks just happen to have been optioned with deluxe interior and deluxe seat belts..

That's what Ed means by stand alone..

[BULLITT65]

I thought it was stand alone, and also included with the deluxe interior, like the wood steering wheel, but now I understand.

[KurtS]

Ed linked above to my article that explains it.
http://www.camaros.org/seatbelt.shtml

[BULLITT65]

thanks for the link. it seems like production was pretty low for the deluxe seat belts. Is there any breakdown by color for the deluxe belts for each year?

[bertfam]

Is there any breakdown by color for the deluxe belts for each year?

Not unless Paul (fsc66) has something in the "good book"!

Ed

[jdv69z]

Interesting. Now I've got my marketing stick if I ever sell my Z. "Equipped with rare ZK3 deluxe seat belt option". 

[BULLITT65]

Ok in sticking with this L.A. theme and early cars in general. I noticed on my 10B (early) white car that the radiator hoses which I thought were replacements have codes stamped into the rubber (no white ink) that correlate to the original GM white stamped (not pressed into the rubber) hoses. ( which I have a set of GM originals on my late 69 car, that are identical to Skips orange Z).

So for the early 69 car, I have the different numbers stamped in them and then a  AU code on one, and then a AG code on the other. Has anyone else seen hoses like these?
Could this have been original but through a different supplier that was used earlier in the model year, or just at the L.A. plant?