gray phosphate

[sbmiano]

How do I paint something to achieve the gray phosphate color

[Mike S]

 I think Eastwood sells a paint to look like phosphate. I have seen the results and you can tell it is painted.


Mike

[cook_dw]

Edit:  Mike, you beat me to it..   

There are paints that look like phosphate.  Eastwood is one company.  Phosphate is actually a chemical reaction and it creates a protective layer over the part.

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[BULLITT65]

very informative link. It looks like the results can vary a bit, and it takes playing with it a bit to get the amount of sheen you want on your end product. Have you tried this little phosphate experiment yet Darrell?

[Charley]

http://www.palmettoenterprises.net/Palmetto_Enterprises/-Welcome-.html


Easy to use and cheap.

[BULLITT65]

On their website it says you have to heat to 210 degrees, are you placing the container on the stove, and then dipping? what was your process and can you post a pic of your results Charley?

[69Z28freak]

Here is some more info.

http://home.comcast.net/~rt66tbird/website/phosphate_etching.html

[cook_dw]

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very informative link. It looks like the results can vary a bit, and it takes playing with it a bit to get the amount of sheen you want on your end product. Have you tried this little phosphate experiment yet Darrell?

I have and it does take a little while to get the results you want.

http://www.palmettoenterprises.net/Palmetto_Enterprises/-Welcome-.html


Easy to use and cheap.

Charley, I do not see that the Palmetto is much different than the Phosphate Prep & Etch..  You use the same basic process..  Am I missing something?

[janobyte]

I've everything ready ,and my products from Palmetto ,just have not had a chance to get out there. The quarts net a lot of product ,which per Scott can be re-used. The Manganese is mixed in more concentration than the phosphate ,but is said more durable. Hence the use on hood hinges/springs. He sends out an instruction sheet and personally answers any questions ASAP. Like one of the Mustang guys posted : dollar for dollar way cheaper than paint with correct results.



I plan on using a hot plate for small items.

[69Z28-RS]

I use a small one burner hot plate and a set of various sizes of SS pots I purchased at Walmart.    and the Palmetto chemical.  For small/med amounts of water, the hot plate works fine and heats up within a few min, but I tried once with a 3 gallon pot and I'm not sure I ever got to 200F using the hot plate.   I think it will be better to use a propane heater for larger amounts (and do it outside) - another use for the burner/stand taht I use for my turkey fryer!)..
The Process is:   1) heat water to 200-210F, 2) add appropriate amount of chemical, mix, then 3) submerge the part(s) - I generally try to circulate the solution or the part while it's in the bath.  4) upon removal, wash/dry parts in WD40 (3 times).   I generally spray down again with WD40 and put the part in a plastic ziplock bag until I'm ready to install.

[Mike S]

 I have only used 180-190 temps for phosphating. You don't want to start a boil or else you'll start to get crush developing in the pot and that is hard to clean out. I learned that the hard way until a gun restorer showed me that 210 is too close to boiling and after backing it down to 190 things went much better.
You will also want to use a diffuser under the pot to prevent hot spots from developing.

Mike

[69Z28-RS]

I have only used 180-190 temps for phosphating. You don't want to start a boil or else you'll start to get crush developing in the pot and that is hard to clean out. I learned that the hard way until a gun restorer showed me that 210 is too close to boiling and after backing it down to 190 things went much better.
You will also want to use a diffuser under the pot to prevent hot spots from developing.

I agree Mike.  If I get close to 200F, I'm happy with the temp.   What do you use as a diffuser?

[Charley]

Cook....All I know is Palmetto was the first guy I found selling it years ago and he has kept it cheap and simple to use. You can get a stainless salad bowl or stainless pot at someplece like Walmart and cook bolt soup on your outdoor Gas bar-b-que.

[Mike S]

 I have a small pot with a copper bottom plating and for the larger pot I have what is called a 'stove top heat diffuser' I bought at a dollar store. I have seen them for sale on Amazon too.

Mike

[Petes L48]

Yep, turkey fryer works very well and you don't want to get much higher than 190.  I use a shallow SS serving pan or a porcelain finish cooking pot.