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Messages - john jay 69Z

#1
Hi Kurt,

That would make life easier having a spreadsheet, as you can tell I am a bit old school and still leaning to navigate my way around these things. I will seek some help to get the spreadsheet set up for me, it will also help me with my First Generation Camaro data that I have been collecting from various sources of advertised cars, auctions and car meet/car shows that contained VIN and TRIM TAG details of around 540 cars between the three years that are residing in Australia during last 20 years.
I believe that as many as another 100 - 200 cars to be here that have been offered for sale but had no details of tags for me to record.

Thank you again,
John
#2
General Discussion / Re: 1969 Cowl Partial VIN
July 31, 2026, 06:31:25 AM
Hi Joe,

Good to hear from you,
I think I didn't explain my question properly, in the cowl area where the partial VIN numbers are stamped there is also a H281 stamped to the right side of the vin stamping so almost the centre position of the cowl. I haven't come across so far of anyone mentioning this or in any literature, is this a standard body stamp on all Camaros or is it a date stamp for each individual body shell. I was hoping someone could shed some light on this.
Thanks again,
John
#3
General Discussion / 1969 Cowl Partial VIN
July 30, 2026, 08:18:50 AM

Hi all, would anyone know What H 28 1 stamp in the centre of Cowl area represents, I was going through my photos that I had taken during the restoration documenting my hidden VIN numbers. I was thinking it might be a body date stamp, 28th August, seeing that my car is a 3rd week of September 1969 built but have not found anything yet to back my theory up.

Any thoughts,
John Jay 69Z
#4

Updated Z28 List and Non Z28 Camaro List

2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow,Black Vinyl Top, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N635021
VIN - 124379N684690

2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl TOP, ZL2
VIN - 124379N668403
VIN - 124379N697820

1 x X33 Yellow/ Yellow, Black Vinyl Top,Flat Bonnet / this is my car
VIN - 124379N684757

1 x X77 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top, ZL2
VIN - 124379N698040


2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow RS, ZL2
VIN - 124379N646200
VIN - 124379N673127


2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow RS, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N657368
VIN - 124379N708124

2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N529625
VIN - 124379N697979

1 x VN LOS Yellow/Yellow, Flat Bonnet
VIN - 124379L528563

Total to date 13





Updated Yellow/Yellow Camaro List

X66 Yellow/Yellow, Parchment Vinyl Top 396 Auto
VIN - 124379N677163

X44 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top SS 350 Auto
VIN - 124379N697672

X22 Yellow/Yellow, RS SS D80 396 4spd
VIN - 124379N647856

X22 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top RS SS 396 4spd
VIN - 124379N700175

X11 - Yellow/Yellow, Parchment Vinyl Top 307 Auto Now 427
VIN - 124379N681661

X11 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top RS SS 396 4spd
VIN - 124379N682870

    Yellow/Yellow RS SS 396 Auto
VIN - 124379N518627

    Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top RS SS 350 Auto
VIN - 124379L524300

Total to date 8



#5
Thanks Kurt,

What colour is the 6 cylinder is it Daytona Yellow or one of the other colours that you mentioned,
We also left out Butternut Yellow was also a candidate for the Yellow trim.
The Black car with the Yellow trim has been circulating on the net and talked about, have any of the other colours been noted.
John
#6
Hi Kurt, thank you for the update that is great info to see survival rate. As far as I know there is also 1 Tuxedo Black car with the Yellow interior, over the years the information that has been floating around is that around 150 Daytona Yellow with Yellow interior out of total production. The cars you mentioned any break down between the models and is there any 6 cylinder cars found with this combo.

#7
Hi Joe, Looking good love the combo
#8

I wanted to add this Daytona Yellow/Yellow that is also in Australia and start a new list for non Z28 cars
All welcomed to add

X22 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top 396 Auto RS SS
VIN - 124379N700175

John
#9
Hi Joe,

At the moment I am looking at Z28's, as long as when adding retails it's states what the car is happy for non z28's to add on as well.

John
#10
Hi all,

Over the last 25 years of ownership of a yellow/yellow interior 1969 z28 I have always wanted to research and see how many where made and as GM did not keep proper records it unknown.
So I have been doing some searching where ever I can obtain any information and have compiled some data for myself and thought to share it with CRG.

Total so far of 13 cars with the colour combination

2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow,Black Vinyl Top, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N635021
VIN - 124379N684690

1 x X33 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl TOP, ZL2
VIN - 124379N697820

1 x X33 Yellow/ Yellow, Black Vinyl Top,Flat Bonnet / this is my car
VIN - 124379N684757

1 x X77 Yellow/Yellow, Black Vinyl Top, ZL2
VIN - 124379N698040


2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow RS, ZL2
VIN - 124379N646200
VIN - 124379N673127


2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow RS, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N657368
VIN - 124379N708124

2 x X33 Yellow/Yellow, Endura Front Bumper, ZL2
VIN - 124379N529625
VIN - 124379N697979

1 x VN LOS Yellow/Yellow, Flat Bonnet
VIN - 124379L528563

There was one more that was advertised by We Be Autos back in May 2012 an X77 D80 Vinyl Roof and ZL2 but not able to obtain VIN

If anyone else has information or owns one feel free to add to the list.

Regards,
John jay 69Z
#11
Originality / Re: 69 Center axle bumper - two styles?
January 05, 2024, 08:48:33 PM
Happy New Year to all

My 09C X33 also has the push in, has the 2 holes but no threads.

John
#12
General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas
December 25, 2023, 04:25:01 PM
Merry Christmas to all, have a wonderful and memorable day with family and friends and a Happy New Year filled with love health happiness and prosperity, GOD bless.

#13
General Discussion / Re: Preserving seat belts
December 10, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
Thank you all again for all your input,
For the moment I have used paper clips to hold the loose labels to the belt so as I don't loose any more till I can talk to some of the companies mentioned in the replies. Currently I am missing a safety label from my left shoulder belt and a Hamill label from left front seat buckle belt. I had taken many photos in 2001 when the restoration was in progress but never paid a lot of attention to the dates and codes to now.
Not sure if the information on the belts I have noted will help with furthering with the data already gathered by CRG

My front belts and retractable are all 1907 and dated 27 B 69
Rear belts are all 1912 and dated 26 E 69
Shoulder Belts and the 2 centre buckles are all 1952 and dated 1 C 69

All buckles are RCF -65

D Rings
Front are HA2181
Rear  are HA2177

My car is a 3 week September 69 Norwood built

John

#14
General Discussion / Re: Preserving seat belts
December 08, 2023, 03:06:27 AM
Hi MO

Thank you for your reply, I think some of them will need restitching the others look a bit more frail not sure if they can be stitched further in. Will now have to take all the seat belt out and look for an upholsterer and see what solution they come up with.
Being material would be hard I suppose to somehow glue them on the belt not sure if there is a product
that might work without the glue coming through the label.

Thanks again
John

#15
General Discussion / Preserving seat belts
December 07, 2023, 04:59:30 PM
Hi CRG,

I have an issue with my seatbelts which others might have had also, I recently noticed that the Hamill stitching label on one of my seat belts was starting to come apart which caused me concern so I decided to check the condition of all the other labels hoping that the others were much better and notice a few more were starting to come apart due to age and condition. Is there a way to save the labels as this issue now is of great concern as I have tried to keep the car as original as possible in my 22 years of ownership.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
John