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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2015, 02:33:06 AM »
Dave would you mind adding a pick of yours to this thread?
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2015, 03:00:39 AM »
Dave, what stick was in that original 68Z you picked up?
And Merry Christmas to you friend! And Happy New Year......
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2015, 03:03:41 AM »
Hey Chick,
 Sounds good. I got your text, but was working on a gas line all day today. Natural gas line that is... I MAY have a friend that needs it. Otherwise will get it all packed up after the holidays and shoot it back to ya... D

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2015, 10:28:44 PM »
Dave, what stick was in that original 68Z you picked up?
And Merry Christmas to you friend! And Happy New Year......

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2015, 10:33:37 PM »
Chick,
My survivor 68 Z/28 has the flat handle with the gray tip and its a June build. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year......Dave

P.S. I brought the car home today after being garaged at my buddies house since March when I purchased it.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2017, 04:28:00 AM »
Several of us in the past have posted pictures of dipsticks from survivor cars or cars that have been owned for a long time and there has been some debate or doubt on what is considered correct in a 68 Z/28. In 2015 Danny had his 05E Butternut Yellow Z/28 at MCACN and he asked me if he could borrow a gray tipped round handled dipstick. I brought a spare I had but the main point was he had been told his was a replacement and it should be a round type. While at MCACN there was a 68 04D survivor car in barn finds. It had the exact same dipstick, thin handled gray tip with an “E” stamp.  Recently with the help of several individuals I’ve put a small population together to assist with some analysis, but first a review again of the flat type handle gray tip dipstick.
Pictured displayed before of the 04D & 05E 68 Z/28 dipsticks at MCACN 2015.




Note these flat handle gray tipped sticks both have a “E” stamp which several people including Pacecarjeff have stated that is what is normally seen with these flat handled sticks. The round handled gray tip dipstick is normally stamped with “M.”



Now Jerry’s 07C Z/28 stick which is the same as the 04D & 05E shown.




And the handle of a 07D Z/28 with the same handle as the 07C, 05E, and 04D.


Another needed review involved the location and similarities between the two sticks, the gray tipped round handle vs. the flat handled gray tipped stick. Here is our round handle!


Now putting our round handle gray tipped stick beside the 07D flat handled gray tipped stick the location of the ADD and FULL marks are in the same location as the round handle stick. Note the difference in “E” stamp and “M” stamp.


Granted this is a small population but interesting and I’m confident there were two sticks used. Here is a chart of what we have so far but looking to add more 67 & 68 examples. Paul, can you confirm what stamp is on your 02C LOS Z/28 stick?

1967 Z/28 Dipsticks
06A LOS 67 Z/28 Brown Tipped round handle 6000 mile Z/28 “M” stamped
07B LOS 67 Z/28 Gray Tipped round handle “M” stamped
 
Start 1968 Z/28 Dipsticks:
11C NOR
12D NOR
01B NOR M stamp
02C LOS
All of the above have the round handle with gray tip.
 
04D 68 Was at MCACN 2015 in barn finds
05E 68 Danny’s E stamp
06A 68 Dave’s E stamp
07C 68 Jerry’s E stamp
07D 68 Skip’s E stamp
All five of these NOR Z/28’s have the same flat handle gray tip “E” stamped stick and all of them are survivors. Chances of all 5 of these having service replacement sticks is extremely unlikely IMHO. Plus there is no part # on stick similar to other service replacements or pierced area like later service replacements.
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2017, 05:13:23 AM »
Paul, can you confirm what stamp is on your 02C LOS Z/28 stick?

Start 1968 Z/28 Dipsticks:
11C NOR
12D NOR
01B NOR M stamp
02C LOS
All of the above have the round handle with gray tip.

Sure can, Chick.  I posted the information HERE back in 2008.  :)

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2017, 05:15:04 AM »
Didn't we have a similar discussion a couple of years ago (re 1969 dipsticks), and discovered the same (or very similar thing).. ie. a change within the year, or multiple suppliers??
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2017, 01:40:03 PM »
Didn't we have a similar discussion a couple of years ago (re 1969 dipsticks), and discovered the same (or very similar thing).. ie. a change within the year, or multiple suppliers??
Yes, there is a flat handled 69 and round handled but some have stated it has to be a flat handle type.  This picture is the same two sticks but more clearly shows the stampings, i.e. the "E" stamp and "M" stamp.

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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2017, 01:45:52 PM »
Paul wrote concerning his 02C round handle:
"My '68 Z dipstick is different than the one in your photos.  It does have the rounded handle like yours, but there is no indentation on the handle where the gauge is pinched into the handle.  Mine has a gray plastic tip in it.  There is no part number stamped into mine."

"Here's what is stamped on my gauge:     ADD :                   : FULL                    ENGINE    OIL               M"

Paul is referring to Jerry's 68 07C flat handle with gray tip .
1967 Z/28 Dipsticks
06A LOS 67 Z/28 Brown Tipped round handle 6000 mile Z/28 “M” stamped
07B LOS 67 Z/28 Gray Tipped round handle “M” stamped
 
Start 1968 Z/28 Dipsticks:
11C NOR
12D NOR
01B NOR M stamp
02C LOS M stamp
All of the above have the round handle with gray tip.
 
04D 68 Was at MCACN 2015 in barn finds
05E 68 Danny’s E stamp
06A 68 Dave’s E stamp
07C 68 Jerry’s E stamp
07D 68 Skip’s E stamp
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2017, 02:42:50 AM »
06b flat handle  e stamp gray tip 327 /2bbl original owner car. Motor has never been out off car since left Norwood.

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2017, 12:00:39 AM »
06b flat handle  e stamp gray tip 327 /2bbl original owner car. Motor has never been out off car since left Norwood.
Thanks for adding!

1967 Z/28 Dipsticks
06A LOS 67 Z/28 Brown Tipped round handle 6000 mile Z/28 “M” stamped
07B LOS 67 Z/28 Gray Tipped round handle “M” stamped
 
Start 1968 Z/28 Dipsticks:
11C NOR
12D NOR
01B NOR M stamp
02C LOS M stamp
All of the above have the round handle with gray tip.

All of the below have the flat handle with gray tip, and "E" stamp.
04D 68 Was at MCACN 2015 in barn finds
05E 68 Danny’s E stamp
06A 68 Dave’s E stamp
06B 68 rare396bronze E stamp NOR
07C 68 Jerry’s E stamp
07D 68 Skip’s E stamp




Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2017, 02:26:37 AM »
Just added another one as John's 12D 68Z has a flat handle gray tip dipstick.
1967 Z/28 Dipsticks
06A LOS 67 Z/28 Brown Tipped round handle 6000 mile Z/28 “M” stamped
07B LOS 67 Z/28 Gray Tipped round handle “M” stamped
 
Start 1968 Z/28 Dipsticks:
11C NOR Round handle w/gray tip
11C Flat handle w/gray tip
12D NOR Round handle w/gray tip
12D NOR Flat handle w/gray tip
01B NOR M stamp Round handle w/gray tip
02C LOS M stamp Round handle w/gray tip

All of the below have the flat handle with gray tip, and "E" stamp.
04D 68 Was at MCACN 2015 in barn finds
05E 68 Danny’s E stamp
06A 68 Dave’s E stamp
06B 68 rare396bronze E stamp NOR
07C 68 Jerry’s E stamp
07D 68 Skip’s E stamp

Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2017, 11:43:46 PM »
I think all the flat handled grey tip dipsticks are incorrect and probably not worth even scrap so you should all just send them to me and I'll take care of them. 
Actually, I just wonder if there's is any concept of NOR vs. LOS.  I have a grey tipped round handle but it's not original to mine as I purchased it from Jeff.  I really can't believe all those flat handle sticks could be wrong.  I'm with Jeff even though I do have a dog in the fight, that there had to be more than one supplier and with the length and levels the same, it fills the requirement GM probably needed.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2017, 02:48:25 PM »
I agree that there were probably two suppliers and thus two types of original 68 gray tip dipsticks.
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