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What is the correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for all 1968 Camaro small blocks?  Does anyone have a picture and details on the text scribed onto the blade?  Hopefully, JohnZ or one of the Legends judges can chime in.

All small blocks (302, 327, and 350) used the same oil dipstick (Group 1.516, 3923239) according to my 1967-69 Camaro Master Parts Catalog No. 691A (dated July 1969).  Page 6/B2 of the 1968 AIM also lists 3923239 as the dipstick for V-8 engines (pictured was a small block) and lists the dipstick as having a "grey tip". 

If it helps your search, according to my 1971 P&A 30A, the dimension from Full to Stop (Length A) is 17-17/32 inches and from Add to Stop (Length B) is 18-7/16 inches.

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 12:09:41 AM »
Is this what you are needing?  This is my dipstick from my 1968 Z28.  Dimensions are the same as you are stating and the tip is grey.

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 12:39:12 AM »
Is that all the text on the blade?  What about further up towards the handle? 

I also need a picture of the handle (unpainted) with the grey tip.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 02:11:47 AM »
68Zproject,

The CRG Forum link you gave doesn't have any pictures.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 02:47:32 AM »
Is that all the text on the blade?  What about further up towards the handle?
That is all the text there is on the blade.
I also need a picture of the handle (unpainted) with the grey tip.

Here tis.....





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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 02:16:44 AM »
Thanks 1968 Z28.

I'm just guessing because I'm not sure, but I didn't think that the dimpled handle dipsticks were made until the 70s?  Was this your original dipstick, or a service replacement? 
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 03:33:41 AM »
Same dipstick that was in engine when I bought the car in 1972.  Original owner lives about a 1/2 mile from me and we converse often and he has stated many times that the car was completely original when he traded it away in 1972.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 04:11:20 AM »
Same dipstick that was in engine when I bought the car in 1972.  Original owner lives about a 1/2 mile from me and we converse often and he has stated many times that the car was completely original when he traded it away in 1972.

Jerry MacNeish says a '68 Z/28 should have a round handle...

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=3437.0

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 07:31:03 PM »
Give Pace Car Jeff a call. He has LOTS of dip sticks and is knowledgeable about them too.
I thought the dimples came later too.

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »
Wow, thanks 1968RSZ28. 

I didn't find that forum string because I was spelling it as "dipstick" vice "dip stick" in my search.  It looks like all my questions were answered with the other forum string...and that I have the correct 68 SB dipstick...round handle, no dimple, grey tip.  Thanks everybody for the help and your time.

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 03:59:19 AM »
Wow, thanks 1968RSZ28. 

I didn't find that forum string because I was spelling it as "dipstick" vice "dip stick" in my search.  It looks like all my questions were answered with the other forum string...and that I have the correct 68 SB dipstick...round handle, no dimple, grey tip.  Thanks everybody for the help and your time.

No problem, Bernie.  Yes, you have the correct dipstick for a '68 Camaro per Jerry MacNeish.  I have the same one in my '68 Z/28.   :)

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2012, 01:37:41 PM »
That is not a "dimple" dipstick.  just a funny bend.  See below for a later stick with Dimple....
The writing on the stick looks perfectly correct to me.
the shape of the handle is not what I typically see for 68 SB, but i would imagine that more then one or two vendors were making those at the time.

That looks like a correct 1968 stick to me...

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 08:38:24 PM »
Jeff......many thanks.  I knew if anyone would know dip sticks, it would be you.  Now that doesn't sound quite right... ;D  :)

I have seen a forum post somewhere, don't remember quite where, that listed the manufacture stampings....such as E, M.  It didn't name the manufacture, just noted the different stampings.  So I think that would account for the various differences in the handle shape.  Also, being this is a late car might have something to do with the differences.

Thanks again,
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 12:55:54 AM »
I started to notice a pattern after a while - all the "M" sticks were the round handles.
All the "E" sticks were the flattened curves.
The "E" sticks came in two versions also - - some with color coded tips, and some with squished flat ends.  - -

There were W's and circle B's  - - there were a few more markings that I have seen....
Those are the manufactures designation code - I would think???

I believe they were all being used interchangeably - - the wording on the sticks is what was consistent from year to year.
Also the length, and full markings - remained constant for the different applications...
As the GM recommended oil quality changed - so did the wording on the sticks.

Yes - I got to know a lot of dip sticks over the years ;D

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2014, 01:32:03 PM »
I have been looking through any post to do with dipsticks. I have been wanting the description of the proper stick for early 67 350ss. Seems as there is a wide number of dipsticks that have been used and with the service replacement factor also considered a lot of questions keep surfacing on this issue.
Would it make a good reference page on just that?
Showing pictures of different ones with references to application?
Just a thought.
 
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2015, 03:09:34 AM »
I wish to add to this thread since Jerry (68 Z28) has the same dip stick as I recently found on 3 survivor cars. One of them being team member Danny and his 68Z. At MCACN Danny and another attendee with a 68 survivor both had the same dipstick flattened type handle with correct gray colored tip. I had thought prior to this the handle was round with gray colored tip with a "W" or "M" stamping but the flattened handled sticks all had an "E" stamp.




And the third dip stick here is in my good friends 68Z survivor. Picture makes the tip look almost white but it is Gray tipped.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2015, 02:29:43 PM »
So again I Ask does anybody have pics of or know what is correct for 67 SB's? Like a L48?
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2015, 06:39:25 PM »
67 and 68 were exactly the same except that 1967 had a salmon colored tip. 
I have seen 4 different versions that were used E - M - W - B - could be more....

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2015, 07:03:52 PM »
Mine is the rustier one of the two in the picture. Chick took that picture at the MCACN show. Jerry M. mentioned to me that it should have the round handle, and that mine was for a '69. So Chick was nice enough to sell me one of his extra's the day of the show. However after doing some research, and seeing the car in the barn find section... I'm not so sure.. I wonder if it's a time period thing? I have seen more than one survivor car with the flat handle. My car is last week of May of '68. Isn't that like 9 months into production, or MORE. Couple months later they were starting production on the '69. SOMEBODY has to know if there were more than one vendor for dip sticks.. RIGHT?... Danny

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2015, 08:18:10 PM »
Mine is the flattened curve, no dimple, has the E and low mark, but is what seems to be a brown ?  button.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2015, 12:28:06 AM »
Mine is the flattened curve, no dimple, has the E and low mark, but is what seems to be a brown ?  button.

I'm convinced Danny that your dip stick is original. Reason, four 68Z's with the same dip stick of which covered April, May, and two July cars. I believe Jerry's (68 Z28) is a 07C car where as Skip's (friends 68Z) is a 07D car. Kind of hard to dispute 4 68 Z/28's that are survivor flavor and all have the exact same dip stick being not correct. Refund to ya Danny!
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2015, 12:36:54 AM »
Brad (bc69)
The picture you posted is that out of your 1967 Camaro? If so its the correct flat handle with the BROWN tip. The line from add to fill is shorter on those than the lines on the 68 pics that Chick posted. Hope that helps you out. Dave
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2015, 12:39:30 AM »
Yes. It's a L48 survivor.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2015, 01:07:04 AM »
Yes. It's a L48 survivor.
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The picture you posted is that out of your 1967 Camaro? If so its the correct flat handle with the BROWN tip. The line from add to fill is shorter on those than the lines on the 68 pics that Chick posted. Hope that helps you out. Dave
It also should have lines, one after ADD and one before the FILL on the flat handle. The round handle from what I have seen all have a dot or two dots after the ADD or before the FILL.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2015, 01:17:27 AM »
Wow, thanks 1968RSZ28. 

I didn't find that forum string because I was spelling it as "dipstick" vice "dip stick" in my search.  It looks like all my questions were answered with the other forum string...and that I have the correct 68 SB dipstick...round handle, no dimple, grey tip.  Thanks everybody for the help and your time.

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Bernie,
Does your round dipstick with the grey tip, have one dot or two dots? The dots are located after the ADD and before the FILL.  Dave
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2015, 01:22:55 AM »
dave this is the south end of 67 stick
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2015, 01:42:38 AM »
Yes, that's it! So you have the correct one. Now you can rest with peace...lol

There are so many different dipsticks it crazy!!!!!!
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2015, 01:48:22 AM »
I have been attempting to find out what was right. This was said to be a service replacement. But how was that when nobody could tell me or really knew what was orig.
Thanks.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2015, 02:03:00 AM »
Nope, yours is original. The one I described, which is what you have is out of my 67 327ci and should be the same as the L48. This is a 03C build date car.
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2015, 02:33:06 AM »
Dave would you mind adding a pick of yours to this thread?
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2015, 03:00:39 AM »
Dave, what stick was in that original 68Z you picked up?
And Merry Christmas to you friend! And Happy New Year......
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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2015, 03:03:41 AM »
Hey Chick,
 Sounds good. I got your text, but was working on a gas line all day today. Natural gas line that is... I MAY have a friend that needs it. Otherwise will get it all packed up after the holidays and shoot it back to ya... D

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2015, 10:28:44 PM »
Dave, what stick was in that original 68Z you picked up?
And Merry Christmas to you friend! And Happy New Year......

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Re: What is correct "grey tip" oil dipstick for 1968 small blocks?
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2015, 10:33:37 PM »
Chick,
My survivor 68 Z/28 has the flat handle with the gray tip and its a June build. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year......Dave

P.S. I brought the car home today after being garaged at my buddies house since March when I purchased it.
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