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« on: October 25, 2010, 12:21:31 PM »

1968 Camaro  vin 124378N438140

Cowl 5B     NOR 130556

712  AA

Car is black V8 with Std int. Not sure if cowl tag is repo and can't post picture right now
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 01:40:33 PM »

When you can post the pucture. You will find out if it is original or fake.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 03:56:30 PM »

When I get the car, I am more concerned with the info being correct
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 12:10:27 PM »

When I get the car, I am more concerned with the info being correct

You can decode the cowl tag yourself on the CRG main site, here:

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 01:09:09 PM »

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When I get the car, I am more concerned with the info being correct

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You can decode the cowl tag yourself on the CRG main site

However, I'm always leary of late cars with AA paint. Post a picture and we can tell you more.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 10:15:59 AM »

I am mainly looking to see if the VIN, Body number and date code seem to line up.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 09:39:40 PM »

Not sure if cowl tag is repo and can't post picture right now
I am mainly looking to see if the VIN, Body number and date code seem to line up.
Those are 2 different questions. Without a pic, I can't comment on the originality of the tag.

But the #'s do not line up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 11:00:15 AM »

Why do you say the numers are wrong?
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 03:08:22 PM »

Because that VIN doesn't go with that tag.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 04:40:13 PM »

To elaborate on what Kurt said, your trim tag indicates your car was built the second week of May, 1968 (05B), however, your VIN indicates the car was built the third week of May, 1968 (05C), therefore one or the other has been swapped.

I would imagine it's the trim tag, but check the hidden VIN to make sure it matches the VIN on the dash, and post a picture of the trim tag.

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 06:29:42 PM »

When I take May total production (39952) and divide by working days (22) I get 1816 cars per day. My serial # puts the car and a build of May 6 or 7 which would be week 2 not 3 or am I figuring wrong. How did you determin third week of May?  I am trying to get hold of the cowl tag but I'm not sure the PO still has it. It was taken off the car.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 11:01:08 PM »

Look closer at that production data (http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany). "The data for some months (especially May and June 68 at Norwood) deviate significantly from actual build dates, while other months correlate well.
We have data on cars close to your VIN and they are not 05B.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 06:09:45 AM »

It did seem odd that there was such a jump in May numbers. I had used figures from another site and came up with a 13th build date but thinkng the CRG numbers to be more accurate I used their numbers for my calculation.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 09:46:43 AM »

It did seem odd that there was such a jump in May numbers. I had used figures from another site and came up with a 13th build date but thinkng the CRG numbers to be more accurate I used their numbers for my calculation.
If this is correct then all that is wrong is the 5B is being mistaken for a 5C?
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 10:17:39 AM »

When I take May total production (39952) and divide by working days (22) I get 1816 cars per day.

Norwood production was 912 cars per day.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 06:17:43 PM »

Apparantly the PO had a couple cars and the info he gave me was wrong and not for my car as that tag was still on the other car. The correct cowl tag was hunted down, found at the body shop and sent to me. The car is a 5C  NOR138011  OO paint and 749   seats.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 06:24:52 PM »

 Post a picture and let the experts see it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 09:44:36 PM »

So the seller says wrong dated tag is still on the other car. But you can have a correct dated tag that calls for different inside and outside colors. Does "buyer beware" sound like good advice?
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 09:59:53 PM »

So the seller says wrong dated tag is still on the other car. But you can have a correct dated tag that calls for different inside and outside colors. Does "buyer beware" sound like good advice?

And I bet the tag is a reproduction.
Are suppose to take the wrong tag off and send it back?
Please excuse my ignorance, but what does PO stand for?
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 01:25:24 AM »

Please excuse my ignorance, but what does PO stand for?

My guess, Police Officer...  Huh

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2010, 06:26:58 AM »

The story sounds f'd up but if you were here it makes  sense.  Short story is there were two cars. two tags. I have the correct one. The Previous Owner (PO) wasn't pulling anything.
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 07:51:20 AM »

My guess...Previous Owner  Huh
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2010, 01:39:32 PM »

Now that you have the tag, post a picture. I haven't researched it completely (and I could be wrong), but that body number still seems off for that VIN.

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 07:05:24 PM »

Here it is
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 07:31:07 PM »

The experts need to chime in on this one.
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 08:20:50 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2010, 09:23:31 AM »

A twisted series of events, but I believe it's the original tag.

Glad to help get the right one! Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2010, 09:58:57 AM »

Thanks, now that I have it should it be painted the color of the car before reinstalling ( car is already painted) and if I understand correctly I need factory type rivets that get pushed in place and the sealed with black sealer?
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