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I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« on: December 15, 2008, 08:16:19 PM »
67 RS/SS 396 Madeira Maroon with Black Interior.

I have my Camaro ready to reassemble and trying to determine what gets painted first with what paint, color, gloss%, overspray items, Interior color, firewall,  etc.etc.etc.  Spatter paint seems to be a whole different headache all together..OUCH!

Is there a written guide to the paint process during assembly?? This research is taking forever with he said this and she said something different, use this paint don't use this one, overspray here, feather there ...ugh!

My car is on a rotisserie and I at least need to know what to paint the bottom, wells etc.. before I put the frame and rearend back in. Also what to paint the rearend and subframe. Is there an all knowing person for this?

JohnZ where are you?
Thanx so much for any assistance.

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 12:46:46 AM »
Thanx..that helped a little :(

I was hoping there was a book :'(

Still unanswered.......

What is the correct gloss% of the engine compartment?
Was the firewall, radiator support and fenderwells the same color?
Where was the firewall masked off at? (I know it isn't a clean mast but a stencil type mask)
Was the trim tag painted with the firewall?
What is the correct gloss% and color of the subframe?
What is the correct gloss% and color of the rearend?
What is the correct gloss% and color of the Dash, Interior components?
What is the correct gloss% and color of the upper dash?
I assume the bottom was primer gray with over spray from the body color?
What is the correct gloss% and color of the rocker panels and when were they painted?
Where were they masked off at?
What is the correct gloss% and tint of the white bumble bee stripe?
How do I get a correct Spatter paint in the trunk and what colors was it? (Dark Gray & White or Black & Aqua?)
Did the cardboard seat backing get spattered?

Sorry, I am sure this will only spur further questions?

Thanx
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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 02:42:25 PM »
Look what I found..Happy, Happy :D

http://www.67z28.com/finishes.htm

Any comments on accuracy?

I still need info or pics on Firewall mask lines.

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 02:43:48 PM »
Also

What is the right paint code and gloss of the white bumble bee stripe?

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 06:35:54 PM »

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 06:43:17 PM »
I beleive Jerry's book for 69's covers most finishes for all three years. Could be mistaken, don't have my copy handy right now.
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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 10:16:46 PM »
Also

What is the right paint code and gloss of the white bumble bee stripe?

Buddy


Ermine White PPG 8259 Full gloss

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 02:22:20 AM »
Thanx   I think I have everything. I will use common sense on the overspray areas.

I am almost there, just a few more quick questions.

How much of the firewall and cowl was painted body color before the blackout?
Was the whole shell including the full interior and undercarriage primed in gray before body color?
When was the body sealer applied?

And...

Any tips or pics on spatter painting? Dk Gray and white correct?

I think I might document this whole ordeal to help others in the future. Pics and Video. I want to try and do this as close to the factory process as possible.

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 02:53:02 AM »
Any tips or pics on spatter painting? Dk Gray and white correct?

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2266.0

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 04:23:38 AM »
My trunk was dark gray with aqua

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 05:09:20 PM »
I just spoke with Steve at Camaros Plus, who has bought the company from Larry Christianson. He has the most correct spatter paint and says that the correct colors for 67 iare Dark Gray base with White dots and Aqua flecks. Mystery solved.

Does anyone have the dimensions on the gap over the SS emblem in the Bumble Bee stripe?
And at the end of the stripe at the bumper?

You guys have been great help, this is the best source anywhere for first gen.

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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2008, 04:13:48 AM »

Go to this post.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=145784
This guy has a 22,000 mile Camaro with LOTS of original pictures.
You can see how a lot of items were painted by the factory.
You will love looking at the pictures.
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Re: I'm dying here with Paint research. Aarrrrgggg!!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2008, 12:05:25 AM »


Ok, It looks like Red Oxide was the overall primer for the entire car.

It looks to me that where the primer has been worn away?, the blackish color is possibly from the chemical processes before paint?

Someone help me with what I am looking at.

JohnZ, can you describe this?

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