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« on: September 08, 2008, 12:46:12 PM »

My car has a 08C build date on the cowl tag. I was informed on this site that 08B week was skipped.  So does that mean that my 08C car body build started in the second week and not the 3rd???  Did the plant just not produce car bodies during the second week?? Talked with  the original owner yesterday and he remembers buying the ca rin the middle or toward the end of the month of August.  I know the builds dates on the cowls are not exact to the cars build.  Any thoughts just trying to document the cars history as accurate as possible.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 09:44:55 AM »

Could have been the second OR third week - production wasn't skipped, just the 08B code on the tag.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 01:06:34 PM »

Thanks, that makes sense that he picked up the car towards the end of the month of August.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 05:14:18 AM »

John why wouldn't they use 08B for the second week?
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM »

Somebody forgot to change the letters on the trim tag machine, and didn't figure it out until after the weeks tags were stamped, so they went striagth to 08C from 08A
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 02:26:48 PM »

So your saying that there are 2 weeks worth of 08A cars out there? What I still don't understand is if you look at the calendar for the year 1969, August 1st was a friday, so it seems odd they would have been on top of their game to change it for the one day, and then slacked off the whole next week and left it as 08A. Seems like it would have made more sense for friday the 1st to be an 07E cars, and the week starting August 4th to be designated 08A, and then then next 08B and then 08C and end the last week of the month with 08D.
This also makes me curious did they also have 03E for cars built only on March 31st, or I would suggest 06E for cars built on June 30th, but I think I saw that all june cars were 06A, (was that for the same reason they forgot for the month of june?)
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 03:23:33 PM »

Assuming the Fisher build weeks more or less follow the calendar weeks, August 1 would have been the last day of 07D.  08A started 8/4, and 08C started 8/18.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 03:32:28 PM »

So if I follow you correctly 08E cars would have been the first week of september?
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 05:08:08 PM »

The date on the body tag represents when Fisher Body stamped the tag and released the production order. They probably released two weeks of orders during the first week; that's why the tags are all 08A. In addition a released order can be placed on hold due to a quality issue or component shortage. Production of 2012 ZL-1s is currently on hold; all the released orders will sit there until the issue is resolved.

Our documented '67 Z/28 project of many years ago was a great example. Body tag was 06E; engine was V0706MO. Car was final-assembled July 12, 1967. All original.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 05:35:02 PM »

So to prove that things were correct for that situation or one similar I assume the protecto plate is one true way of proving that you had the correct motor for the car. Seems like this would also be true for a couple of the 08C cars that have May motors in them (protecto plate could be used document these instances as well). How else could you legitimately say the motor was originally mated to a car body otherwise?
 
Thank you for the info I was trying to figure out how my 08C car has a motor with a stamped date 0f V0811DZ, with the same info on the protecto plate, seemed like it was way to close together until you posted that info. I know my car was produced later than other 08C cars but glad you were able to shed some light on it.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 05:36:57 PM »

William?  How did you determine final assembly date for the '67 Z in qustion?
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 05:38:09 PM »

Austin,
The only sure way to correllate engine to body is via the VIN stamped onto the block...

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 05:56:31 PM »

I respectfully disagree: There is enough re-stamped blocks out there. In addition to a correct looking block stamping, a original protecto plate would add to the probability of the engine block being original to the car.  I know that certain guys have even reproduced the protecto plates, but it seems at this point in time, less common than the re-stamping of blocks.
A person without the protecto plate, and a correct looking stamping may very well have the original block. All I am stating, is in the case of blocks dated outside what is considered the norm, the addition of an original protecto plate just adds to the authenticity, and makes the point more conclusive.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 06:11:50 PM »

Also I forgot to mention correlation of similar cars in similar circumstances such as there is at least two 08C cars that i know of with this earlier motor case. The more data that is provided that correlates this hypothesis the stronger the case is that this took place.
Such as the information that was provided on the thread about when 69 SS got the stacked hood during production. You had like 20 or so guys provide build dates, plant build, and what hood they had on their cars, and this created a working model that you could look at and project what hood a 69 SS 350 or 396 camaro would probabley have based on the gather data. (early style vents vs the later style stacked hoods)
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 06:28:33 PM »

William?  How did you determine final assembly date for the '67 Z in qustion?

I have some Canadian shipping records from July '67 listing VINs and final assembly dates. The car fit in the range listed.
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