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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2019, 12:25:56 PM »
Pass the option you outlined? sounds to me like his secretary replied and will pass the info. on to him, he  must be an attorney!

Right? Not an attorney but a CEO. I reached out to his secretary this morning and apologized for offending anyone as that surely was not my intent. She responded and said he was not offended at all. Said if we are serious to make an offer. So now Joe is figuring out what a fair price will be for a car with a bunch of incorrect parts. Thinking in the $60-70,000 range. That is the HIGH end but stepping up for the emotional value. We shall see.

Do you have that much 'emotional' value in the 'vin'??   with so many of the functional parts changed and modified??
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2019, 01:01:21 PM »
They are expensive emotions. My wife has those too.
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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2019, 01:29:09 PM »


Do you have that much 'emotional' value in the 'vin'??   with so many of the functional parts changed and modified??


Joe has been looking for a long time and the Pace Cars seem to climbing a bit so $50-70 range doesn't seem out of the norm. And the car looks well done in the pictures and we can only assume, for now, that the rest of the car is done right. As far as mods, pull the Endura bumper and bolt on a chrome one. Order a new steering wheel and swap it. Pull the big block and put in a crate motor. Sell the Endura bumper, the Rosewood and the big block and at least break even and all is right.

So now the plan is to get the Z decked out and get it sold and free up some cash. The good thing is that his wife knows how much this car means and she is on-board as long as the Z goes first. Also, he's willing to step up to get the car but he also knows he isn't going to get too crazy just to get it back. The numbers have to make sense for both parties.

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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2019, 02:00:43 PM »
IMO, the '454' engine is the '$Value smasher'....  the other items (steering wheel, bumper, etc) are not bad, and would be good for most...  For the most ultimate value enhancer, an original engine/accessories would be the ticket.
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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2019, 03:36:09 PM »
IMO, the '454' engine is the '$Value smasher'....  the other items (steering wheel, bumper, etc) are not bad, and would be good for most...  For the most ultimate value enhancer, an original engine/accessories would be the ticket.

Sure being all original would be preferred but replacing the big block with a small block is a weekend project. And it would make the car more correct in the process, which I would think would help the value. But like you mentioned, he has to put a $$$ figure on his emotional attachment and go from there. At this point we have no clue what number the owner is thinking; he might feel the car is worth $150,000 or maybe $40,000. So Joe was going to take some time, figure out what the Z will sell for, talk to his wife and figure out just how much he wants to offer the guy and go from there.

I know selling isn't allowed here so I will ask where a good place to advertise his car might be for like-minded people to see it? Do you guys have any preferred sites? Ebay seems like a big hassle but maybe it would be the best?

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2019, 07:44:18 PM »
I agree with the others…this would be an expensive 'sentimental' purchase. Not to mention the time and money involved 'correcting' the issues you referenced. If this were me, 'I' would move on to another car for a lot less. Again, just my opinion.
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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2019, 10:46:15 PM »
There are several on ebay now ranging from $50,000 to $80,000 so, again, I don't think  $60-$70 for a very nicely restored car that just happens to be the one your Dad bought new is out of line. Of course these are asking prices not selling prices.

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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2019, 11:48:50 PM »
There are several on ebay now ranging from $50,000 to $80,000 so, again, I don't think  $60-$70 for a very nicely restored car that just happens to be the one your Dad bought new is out of line. Of course these are asking prices not selling prices.

I follow Pace Car pricing from time to time, watching for them on B-J, Mecum, eBay, and Craig's. Occasionally, you can find a good L48/350 car around $45K in decent condition, less sometimes depending on originality. I looked for at least 15 years to find mine, went through maybe 20 examples (from Alabama to Kentucky, Indianapolis to E. TN) until I found what I wanted to buy (and afford). Well worth the wait -but don't give up on this one yet.

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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2019, 02:32:15 PM »
I forgot Hemmings. I look forward to every month's issue, even though the internet has taken it's toll on the mag - to me, it's still a good source for everything automotive. Just received the September issue, this jewel is in the Camaro section. At $55K OBO, a documented restored car could be had -

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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2019, 06:22:26 PM »
That one is gone already.

The guy sounds like a CEO with limited time and a non-emotional car collector. Just deal with him as such...
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Re: Any way to do a nation-wide VIN search? Looking for a 69 Pace Car
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2019, 08:51:48 PM »
He has an emotional attachment to the car. I believe his friend's son or maybe it was a family member's son helped him pick the car out after being diagnosed with a terminal disease. The boy has since passed and the owner still feels a connection through the car. Unfortunately that means the price goes up.