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Edgemontvillage

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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2019, 04:59:59 PM »
Scot, the link is shown on my signature line however here it is: https://www.camaros.net/forums/133-build-projects/337897-1969-camaro-rs-z-28-brooklyn-project.html

There are posts on the PS box rebuild beginning at Post #349. Also references to cast iron restoration and heat treating at Post #285 and at Post # 64. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2019, 08:23:05 PM »
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2019, 10:21:14 PM »
Jim, the date stamp on your PS box cover appears to read 80th day of 1969 (March 21, 1969) and non-shouldered bolts.


Seems to proceed the LOS (VN) 04C Body nicely :) Sure looks like they double tapped the stamp tho,,,,

I will see if I can scan the ratty build sheet with the broadcast code block
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2019, 04:51:03 AM »
About every PS box date has a ghost stamp. Something related to their process.
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2019, 05:02:36 AM »
AG is the broadcast code for a Camaro power steering box, fwiw.

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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2019, 11:06:46 AM »
About every PS box date has a ghost stamp. Something related to their process.
Mine was under the top cover. Nothing except a casting date on the outside...Joe
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2019, 12:47:39 PM »
I have a PS box dated 076 9 in storage awaiting rebuild but can't recall the type of bolts; I'll see if I can track it down on the weekend.
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2019, 05:03:01 PM »
About every PS box date has a ghost stamp. Something related to their process.
Mine was under the top cover. Nothing except a casting date on the outside...Joe

Joe, would you post a photo? I don't quite understand your description.

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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2019, 05:49:43 PM »
Build date 08/28/1969...Joe
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2019, 09:15:27 PM »
Build date 08/28/1969...Joe

Joe, the date stamp on your steering box corresponds with the date the case was machined. I read it as the 118th day of X9 (the 6? is distorted). That would date the case April 28, 1969 . If it has its original cap bolts are they shouldered or non shouldered?
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2019, 10:11:22 PM »
Actually it's 01 183 9. The box was cast 181. Assembled 2 days later. It has the flanged bolts "N", not the ones with the lock washers. Hawk X66. his box was built the same day but they are different...Joe
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2019, 01:20:25 AM »
I have a PS box dated 076 9 in storage awaiting rebuild but can't recall the type of bolts; I'll see if I can track it down on the weekend.
Just found it. Actually assembled 072 9 (not 076), Julian cast date '69'. Has bolts with separate washers. Not really relevant but has 3 bolts with 'C' head marking and one with 'SBC'.
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2019, 01:24:32 AM »
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2019, 04:48:08 AM »
Just checked mine.  04B LA car.  Saginaw PS 077 9 Dated.  "C" Bolts with washers.    Just like Jim's above. 
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Re: Correct color bolts for Steering Box
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2019, 02:17:27 PM »
I see the box in the picture is a 69. I have a power and manual box, both dated March of 68. Is it possible there was a change is the style bolts used? Both of my boxes have a standard type bolt with lock washers. Both have been rebuilt and they used the bolts that were in the unit when I sent it to them. Thanks Paul

Admittedly a late entrant in this discussion however I am working on rebuilding a couple of power steering boxes and am (also) curious when Saginaw made changes regarding use of cover bolts and inspection marks:

1. 008 of 1969 and 354 of 1968 dated power steering boxes I have originally came with standard 9/16 head, 3/8 thread bolts and lock washers. In Post #2 a 157 of 1969 box shows use of shouldered bolts and another Saginaw power steering box I observed dated 183 of 1969 (see photo courtesy of HawkX66, Dave) uses the same shouldered cover bolts. When did Saginaw began using the later shouldered cover bolts - seemingly sometime between January (day 008) and July (day 183) of 1969?

2. Saginaw also used a yellow inspection decal on box covers then changed to a paint daub (in 1970)? 
 
July of 1969 (183) dated Saginaw Power Steering Box Cover with Shouldered Bolts
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Date Unknown Box from a 1969 Camaro with Yellow Decal (courtesy of HawkX66, Dave)
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Both those were actually the same box off my 08D 69 Lloyd. If you notice, it has my ripped rag joint on it still. It had the sticker before I cleaned it up. There was no saving the sticker for me unfortunately.

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