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original floor pan / door shell finishes
« on: March 11, 2018, 02:13:14 PM »
I did a lot of searching for an answer to my questions before posting but didn't find what I was looking for.  I recently purchased a low mile 69 Norwood Camaro 09D (1969) with supposedly original carpet/interior (Lemans blue with black interior).  Does anyone have photos they can post of what the bare floorboard and door shells look like from Fisher body?  I'm trying to figure out how much body color made it into those areas as well as trunk spatter paint.  I've read that the doors and trunk lid were already assembled to the body-in-white when it went to paint so am assuming that a worker would have to manually shoot body paint into the door jambs and sills?

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Re: original floor pan / door shell finishes
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 12:29:47 AM »
Yep, read that a couple times and it does not answer my questions.  Anyone have photos of an original unrestored stripped out interior that shows how much body color made it onto the door shells and floor pans?

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 12:32:28 AM »
Our first gen Camaros were 'manually painted', and it's certain that not only was the overspray different from plant to plant, but also differed depending on who was doing the spraying (and perhaps day of the week).. :)
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Re: original floor pan / door shell finishes
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 01:54:58 AM »
I have a good door picture, not so great of the floor. Car is burgundy.
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 06:09:02 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 07:01:02 AM »
Our first gen Camaros were 'manually painted', and it's certain that not only was the overspray different from plant to plant, but also differed depending on who was doing the spraying (and perhaps day of the week).. :)
Actually, no. From John's article: The interior was masked off, the body exterior was tacked-off, and it then entered the main color booth, where it got three coats of acrylic lacquer, sprayed automatically with vertical and horizontal reciprocating spray guns.....
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2018, 12:38:44 PM »
Well... posting 'off the cuff', and I am wrong again... makes me wonder though why we see so many differences in overspray (especially underneath) on original cars...??
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 12:46:12 PM »
Prior to respray
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2018, 02:01:19 PM »
Well... posting 'off the cuff', and I am wrong again... makes me wonder though why we see so many differences in overspray (especially underneath) on original cars...??

I've wondered about that also. When they were building T-Birds and E-250s here in Lorain, I thought the paint kitchens didn't go automated until late 80's, early 90's. The Electrical contractor I was working for had the bid.Of course I was just a young kid out of the Air Force and wasn't paying much attention to automotive assembly history. I had rent due and evening classes!  In any case, taking in account the articulation needed in painting and  automation being in it's infancy(at that skill set) there would have been a large parameter for error. I know when I stripped the Z underneath, I found very little over spray on one side, and a significant amount on the other.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2018, 12:04:01 AM »
Thanks for the photos guys!  My doors look very similar, but mine has much more visible body paint on the floors with a significant shot of trunk spatter as well.  The Z11 photos look to have a fair amount of white, though it's hard to tell it from the gray primer.  From what I've read on the link supplied to me on the 2nd post, starting in 69 the doors were aligned and mounted before body paint.  That means the jambs and sill and door bottoms would have had to been manually sprayed prior to the body spray which was applied with automated spray heads.  If that is true, then a human could put almost any level of paint inside depending on their mood/hangover/etc ;).  Am I assuming too much here or does that seem plausible?